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Schrodinger
26-04-2007, 05:12 AM
bro u r very well verse in the scene.....how to contact the above mistresses if i were to go thailand.....

Bro,

DonCJ = Don Chateau Jade

Just contact Don here if you do decide you wanna visit... :D

DonCJ
26-04-2007, 08:43 AM
I retired four years ago.

My wife and the Mistresses operate Chateau Jade themselves

and I am not involved. I do not meet any new members although I am always available to say hello to old friends.

Contact with Chateau Jade is always initially by email.

[email protected]

Sessions are always by appointment. Don't expect a massage parlor. There are no outcalls and only longer sessions 6 hours to 1 week are offered. The standard format is 2 Dommes per sub, solo sessions are possible at 12 hrs and longer. Meals and drinks are provided at no additional cost and we are famous for our kitchen.

Sorry, we have never had any contact with any professional Dommes in Spore, probably because there are none.

Our old friend Violently is from Spore but has long lived in UK and we believe she is now a well established professional Domme there.

Incidentally there appear to be few if any pro Dommes elsewhere in SEA as well. A few websites for sois-dissant Dommes in the Phillipines but most (like Angelina) appear in active. We know of one excellent pro Domme in southern P/I. Mistress Burning Angel. Have met her in the flesh. She has no website but she does travel and prefers to do sessions outside of her own country. But I have no contact info for her as yet (she's a friend of a friend.)

ydgduo
27-04-2007, 03:48 AM
japan is best for sm in asia

the gals are young and beautiful

compare to price for session around the world, japan is not so far of, compare to standard of living in japan.

europe sm mistresses are full of older mistress which may not be everyone choice.

USA mistresses are nice, but due to high price of you know what there, it is prohibitive.

asia femdom other than japan is pretty scare as compare with the population, virtually non existence.

thanks to don cj, there are very very little such establishment, but the number is pretty low throughout asia.

japan is the way to go and i guess i have to learn to speak japanese and work there one day to enjoy their sm industries. other than that, there are no option for me. I prefer young, tall, white complexion, sexy elegant mistress.
So hard to find.

so jealous of schrodinger. lucky german sotg.

DonCJ
27-04-2007, 09:38 AM
How many times have you actually been to a Japanese dungeon?

The Japanese Scene exists for the Japanese and to a very great degree no one else is welcome. Just like Japanese nightlife all around the region. Try to get in and a fellow who is probably missing his little finger will tell you it's a private club, sorry, members only.

By and large the mizu-shobai (nightlife business) and the fuzuku (perverted sex business) are closed to non-Japanese.

There are a few Japanese SM clubs on the Internet that appear to be open to non-Japanese. But you will still find that the Mistresses by and large speak little or no English or any other language than Japanese.

If you get past all those barriers (say you speak Japanese fluently) you will find that most if not all Japanese mistresses are switches and also sell sex. This is simply supply and demand in Japan where the scene is primarily male-Dominant female submissive.

Also in general I do not find the Japanese Mistresses to be very prone to pay attention to sub's limits, nor to be very safe in their SM play.

Finally the cost of travel and accomodations in Japan are quite high. I have lived there. Have you?

The prevailing prices for SM services in Japan are lower than Hong Kong, but significantly higher than Bangkok.

Naturally if you simply prefer Yamato nadeshiko (flowers of the Yamato plains) to the women of South East Asia, then, have at them. Nothing I can do to help you there. Not really my cup of cha, though. The last Japanese Mistress who visited us was very nice but she had feet ther size of riverine boats, narrow but quite long. Just by looking at her shoes alongside the Thai ladies' you would have taken her for a ladyboy.

DonCJ
27-04-2007, 11:45 AM
PS to last:

If the Japanese scene is so great and so open to gaijin and non-Japanese Asians, why is it that so many people (Japanese and non Japanese residents alike) fly from Japan to session at Chateau Jade in Bangkok?

Riddle me that.

European and American businessmen, teachers, and professionals who live in +++yo often visit us for SM fun.

And they return for more again and again.

Hardly unique since we see people from about 200 nations.

What the subs from Japan have to say about the SM scene in Japan simply does not match what you say.

They live there, you don't. They speak Japanese, you don't. Who do you think knows more about actual conditions?

You are welcome to your opinion and your fantasies. Just don't put them forward as facts. How much actual experience of the Japanese Scene do you have? I don't mean reading Japanese SM magazines. Or watching Japanese SM videos. I mean actually having real time sessions in Japan with Japanese Mistresses?

sickindahead
28-04-2007, 03:58 AM
Hi DonCJ,

I have been to CJ twice. Didn't get to meet you, though i accidental opened the door to your room and you were sleeping during my second visit.

I have been to midori's place before as well and I must agree with you the CJ is better runned. One thing i prefer about sessions with midori is that she is she is intelligent and a true mistress who enjoys the life style (at least it seems so). The girls and CJ and the rest of the girls at midori are trained professionals but i doubt they are really into the lifestyle. But i guess most ppl don't really have a problem with that but i personally love someone who truely enjoy seeing me hurt.

Anyway, bangkok tonite is pretty screwed, now that they have become a pay site. :(

sickindahead
28-04-2007, 04:01 AM
Yeah, I have joined your yahoo group..

Sorry, I am not keen on going overseas..

Hey can i get a link to the grp as well?

dezmondlim
28-04-2007, 01:02 PM
no doubt japanese sm videos is the best ....
but dont know about the real sessions :D

DonCJ
28-04-2007, 01:53 PM
Thanks for the kind words.

But I did not say anything on this forum about CJ being better run than Midori's. Midori and I are close friends. She started out as my protege and Head Mistress of CJ and worked here four years. There was a period, now long past, when we used to slang each other all over the Net bu, no longer and not for a long time.

She does have a problem retaining good Dommes for very long but, that is a common hassle in this business. CJ just lost two Dommes after 8 years on staff but, two others with significant experience returned and replaced them - Mistress Oh and Mistress Doll.

Naturally I can't discuss the personal lives of the Mistresses at CJ or Midori's or any other specific place, as it would be an affront to their privacy. However I can assure you that quite a few are just as much a "lifestyler" as Midori, if by lifestyler you mean someone who continues to enjoy BDSM in their personal life. In the US and Europe many pro Mistresses are lifestylers but many also reverse roles in their personal lives. This is even more so in Japan. Or else Japanese Mistresses are "vanilla" at home. I have known several guys who were the live-in boyfriends of Japanese pro Dommes and when they came to CJ they would complain to me about how it irritated them to watch their gf's makeup process and selecting her fetish wardrobe for the night, go to work torturing men, then come home in the wee hours and change into yukata and fuzzy slippers and just want vanilla sex. Life's a bitch!

A lot of subs want the fantasy of serving a total lifestyler Domme, and a lot of Dommes all over the world work hard at fulfilling that - even when it is only an illusion. Few pro Dommes will ever admit that they are vanilla at home, or that they are married, or even that they are kinky at home but submissive to their partner. It isn't what the sub wants to hear.

A lot of cyber-ink gets devoted to this matter on the BDSM boards, but it cannot be resolved. Some pro Dommes promote themselves as lifestylers, and argue (or let their subs argue) that this makes them "better" Dommes. This is largely just a marketing ploy at the expense of Mistresses who switch, or who sub in their personal lives. In that sense it is very much like the carefully maintained facade that is quite conventional in the US Scene that Dungeons are not male-owned/male managed. NOT TRUE! in most cases. However they will never admit it, usually, again because it's just not what the subs want to hear.

BTW way Mistress Christy did not spring fully formed like the Venus from a half shell. She started out as Mistress Chastity at Chateau Jade just another one of my original four proteges along with Midori, Virginia, and the short lived Cherry who was Virginia's gf. She had a huge clash with Midori and left, returned later, left again to take a different path in her private life. A few years later she decided to return to Domination but on her own and renamed herself Christy. I thought it was very nice of her to do that so as not to exploit her reputation as Chastity. Anyway we always have stayed close. Christy is a talented Domme, and certainly a lifestyler. Unlike Midori she basically works alone except for her assistant Aria. My advice is, session with Christy rather than Aria. A big differential in talent there. (and I did not train Aria.)

DonCJ
28-04-2007, 02:07 PM
Short PS and I apologize for not figuring out how to edit yet

Bangkok Tonite was screwed up long before they went to being a pay site.

The proprietor does not live in Thailand, he is in M'sia. How would S'poreans like it if someone in Burma, say, started a forum called Singapore Tonite and pretended to know all about everything there?

Most of the posters on Bangkok Tonite do not live in Thailand, they are sex tourists. All they ever see of Bangkok is Patpong/Nana/Soi Cowboy and the massage parlors. Most of them hate and despise the girls they screw and spend their time on the forum trying to connive how to beat the (cheap) going prices down further. There was negligible interest in BDSM discussion. It was for me a waste of time.

KatoeyLover69
28-04-2007, 02:15 PM
Bangkok Tonite was screwed up long before they went to being a pay site.

The proprietor does not live in Thailand, he is in M'sia. How would S'poreans like it if someone in Burma, say, started a forum called Singapore Tonite and pretended to know all about everything there?

Correction !


DonCJ,

It is not true that the proprietor of the Bangkok Tonight website does not live in Thailand ! Even though he is a Malaysian he had lived (and is still living) in Bangkok for many years now

http://www.bangkoktonight.com/

DonCJ
28-04-2007, 03:55 PM
In that case I was partially misinformed. I did get his nationality right, though, and the other is really not something I care about, particularly, as I wouldn't give you a Taiwanese dollar for that forum and all of its sleazy members rolled up together - any present company excepted of course. And it seems I am hardly the only one who feels that way. Particularly among the long term Bangkok expatriates. I've been here going on 20 years and a lot of guys I know have been here 30-40 years and consider me a johnny come lately. Few of the old hands have much good to say about "DarkKnight" and his sex tourists.

So it's a trivial matter.

ydgduo
28-04-2007, 11:43 PM
looks wise
i like the japanese gals better
young cute and white white skin

no disrespect to your gals in thailand
just personal preference

also looking at equipment from japan sm house and your sm house, their's look better. Again it is personal perference.

Grass is always greener at the other side, that is why japanese men flood to thailand for sm fun.

good job for your effort to sm scene, keep up the good work, the more the merrier, can the thai sm house, update the website and photos more often, also pay per view video should be increase. I think they update their internet site like once every 5 years.

DonCJ
29-04-2007, 02:06 AM
Thanks for comments

We will not get involved in video either on DVD or streaming, simply because the Thai police are really aggressive about cracking down on that. Whereas otherwise they just leave one alone.

The website gets updated every 2 years. You have to keep in mind that until the last six months, we had not changed location for 8 years and we had not had any major staff changes in 8 years. So while we changes out photos and added some pics of furniture etc, there were simply no major changes to be shown for quite a long time.

Now there have been several so expect an update this year. Also we are getting ready for our tenth anniversary. February 2008. A major milestone for us.

Another thing to consider is that 75% of our subs are repeat guests, they have been here before and they have relatively little interest in the websites.

Most of the people who are really interested in the websites (we have five sites) are people who have never sessioned with us, and frankly many have never sessioned at all, and IMO aren't very likely to do. We used to run up against an awful lot of such on the OFEM forum (now spammed into complete irrelevance), People who cared about SM art, videos and pics but not actually DOING SM. Well, CJ is not in the porn business and won't be as long as I have anything to say about it.

It isn't that we don't care about new subs (first time visitors) but just that our priority is for taking care of our members (repeat visitors.

With first timers we have an ongoing problem with a high rate of no-shows, 90% of no-shows and last minute cancellations are by first timers. Whereas the regulars have proven they will show up - by showing up! We get very few cancellations from regulars and even fewer no-shows from them. So I hope you can see the business sense behind our attitudes.

I understand your aesthetic preference for light skinned Dommes. Thai men have a distinct and well known preference for light skinned women, which is why they prize Yunnanese girls and nothern (Lanna) Thai girls most of all while northeastern girls (ethnically Lao of Khmer-Thai) are at the bottom of the heap. Westerners prefer the darker girls, or simply don't care about pigmentation which is why the bar districts that cater to westerners (farang) are chock full of Issan (northeastern) girls. At CJ the Dommes are from a variety of ethnic mixes: central Thai, Tha-Chinese, Issan, and western Thai near the Burmese border.

Anyway pigmentation is not at all uniform in Japan. Not all Japanese women are so white skinned, that's what makeup is for and the cosmetics industry makes a bundle peddling whitening creams there as well as around here, don't they? But on balance your generalization is reasonably accurate.

BulleYe
29-04-2007, 07:34 AM
Bangkok Tonite was screwed up long before they went to being a pay site.
...
The proprietor does not live in Thailand, he is in M'sia. How would S'poreans like it if someone in Burma, say, started a forum called Singapore Tonite and pretended to know all about everything there?
......

In that case I was partially misinformed.
....

So it's a trivial matter.

sorry,
so please do more research before comments on misinformed.
that to prevent by your misinformed to mislead others as well.
;)

DonCJ
29-04-2007, 12:29 PM
As I said - a TRIVIAL matter. You want to look up TRIVIAL in the dictionary? It means too small to bother about, insignificant, of no consequence, worthless, immaterial. Get it?

But it's really good to hear that no one on this board EVER makes a mistake or passes on second hand information that turns out to be inaccurate. That's really very impressive.

ydgduo
30-04-2007, 02:07 PM
i monitor your website for 8 yrs, and i am sure you did not update every 2 years.

ah ha.

no staff change for 8 years? surely that is not a good thing, punters need new blood, that why they leave their wife at home and go out to do things.
they would change their wife regularly if it is not so expensive to get rid of them.

even if there is no staff change, there are always new photos of sessions and gals.

DonCJ
30-04-2007, 08:48 PM
No major staff changes for eight years. That's how long Mistress Wednesday and Mistress Yuey were here and they were our lead Dommes.

Assistants came and assistants went. And some have come back again. As Mistresses Wednesday and Yuey may well too.

That's all the new blood required. Let me emphasize something: this is a profession requiring considerable skill, training and accumulated experience. The rule of thumb is that it kaes 5 years for a Domme to get fully up to speed. Five years. Those who have been here know full well that Mistress Tahn (eight years and counting) is up to speed. Mistress Oh (4 years) is right behind her. Others that preceeded them with comparable times in the Scene were also fully fleshed out and highly skilled pro Dommes. There's no such thing as an instand Domme and what real subs are after is skill and experience. The new blood has none. They are assistants and they are here to learn. This is not a goddamned massage parlor. That's where punters go for new blood.

As to the website, two years ago we added the four private websites that are linked from it, changed photos by and large, and added the session photos on the websites of Mistress Wednesday and Mistress Tahn. A couple of years before that there was another major revision. A couple years before that, another. And a couple before that was when we started.

As I already explained, we are highly focused on the 75% of our visitors who are regulars, and as such they care little about the website. You say you have been "monitoring" our website for 8 years - that's nice. What have you done about it? Nothing as far as I can tell. We've been in operation 9 years and a few months. I figure, if you haven't been here yet, you aren't likely to fly to Bkk to play just because I update the website (again). We do see several hundred new faces a year and that number has not changed since the start. 3/4 of those will return for more and thus join the ranks of the repeats. What I am saying is the website works, and has always worked, for its intended purpose. It is there to attract first time guests. It has not attracted you. So, fine, thanks for the kind words and you are welcome to go on "monitoring" as much as you like but, as you are neither a CJ member nor apparently likely to become one...your opinion is just another opinion and you know what they say about opinions and rectums? Everyone's got one.

ydgduo
01-05-2007, 02:47 AM
window shopping
look see look see
buy nothing
our national hobby

it is not cheap man
i got to pay the rent

DonCJ
01-05-2007, 04:31 AM
A lot cheaper here than in Japan. Typical Japanese price 25,000-30,000 Yen/hour for one Domme = c.$200 US I think

CJ 10,000 THB 6 hrs 2 Dommes. c.$25 US/hr per Domme.

Admittedly you can't just do 1 hr to get that rate which is the minimum but still that's an 8 to 1 differential when you level the playing fielf for time.

But window shopping is free on the Internet.

Be thankful we don't make it a pay site! which many others have

But I will never do.

To paraphrase John Houseman

We make our money the old fashioned way: we torture people for it.

Quite a few Malaysians and Singaporeans have taken the plunge and apparently liked it judging by the fact that they came back later for more of same.

Anyway thanks for your good wishes and best of luck

Joe73
01-05-2007, 10:47 AM
Hi DonJC,

Got a private message for you

ydgduo
02-05-2007, 01:14 AM
more may not be a good thing

most cannot last 6 hrs of sm play

so in 6 hrs maybe first 2 hrs is productive, the rest too much for the punter.

so in japan you have a few tries, you meet a few mistress

in thailand you have the same mistress in one session

some how i prefer the japan way, but i am bias toward young white white cute jap gals.

i see someone send you private message, got business already. wish you business good good, money pour in like a raging torrent.

DonCJ
02-05-2007, 02:57 AM
Pardon me, but who says "most cannot last 6 hours"?

Because that's not our average session, that's our MINIMUM session.

Our average session is 12 hours.

For the first 5 years we were open 12 hours was the minimum,

The maximum so far is 7 days. Sessions of 2-5 days are quite common.

We only reduced the minimum to 6 hours for sake of local members with jobs and wives and so on whose obligations made 12 hours onerous.

As I have mentioned before 3000 people from 200 nations have sessioned here under the conditions described above and 75% of them have returned for more.

So sorry, but you are dead wrong. People who have been here find they PREFER long sessions to short ones.

And that is why we are the most succesful and best known Dungeon in the region.

We do not do 1 hr sessions because we do not wish to do such sessions.

Furthermore, our sessions routinely are with TWO Mistresses not one as you state. For someone who has been "monitoring" our website for eight years you really don't seem to have read much of the text, or understood it.

By your own admission you are a window shopper so what exactly would you know about how long a sub can last in a session? That 3000 is the number of individual subs who have been here one or more times. Some have been here 20-20 times. The total number of sessions is somewhere between 10,000 and 15,000 and the average length is more than 12 hours. Do the arithmetic. We have EXPERIENCE. Not theories. You, I'm afraid, have a copy of Japanese Sniper in one hand and a Queen video (Japanese SM title) on your TV. See my earlier remark about opinions.

Go ahead and fantasize about the Yamato nadeshiko to your heart's contett. but please don't tell me how long a sub can last in a session because you simply are not in a position to know.

If you were correct, no one would come here more than once. And that is simply the opposite of what happens.

In the US and Europe and Japan and Australia they do short sessions so they can MAKE MORE MONEY. Rush rush rush. We spend more time on checklist and interview than they spend on session. Why do you think people fly halfway round the world to play this way? It is not, contrary to your belief, just because the "grass is always greener." There are Asian Dommes in USA and Europe, you know.

DonCJ
11-05-2007, 07:35 PM
FYI we now have two sessions of 7 days each booked, the first in late May to early June, the second from June 11 to June 18.

Both of them secured with large cash deposits.

So apparently not everyone thinks short sessions are better.

Not everyone window shops.

ydgduo
12-05-2007, 03:16 AM
FYI we now have two sessions of 7 days each booked, the first in late May to early June, the second from June 11 to June 18.

Both of them secured with large cash deposits.

So apparently not everyone thinks short sessions are better.

Not everyone window shops.

you are talking to moi?
of course there are people interested.
your business have survive more than 10 years
obviously it is of sound business model and sense.
you dun have to tell me that, i know.
i just have different taste, prefer other things.

dezmondlim
12-05-2007, 11:44 AM
i like long session with cheap rate as well :)
btw ... doncj is it able to bring the mistress there to singapore or malaysia for some sessions ?

Joe73
12-05-2007, 11:33 PM
NOt much of bdsm scene here......right now just waiting for Mistress Christy's or Mistress Aria's next visit......

DonCJ
13-05-2007, 11:13 AM
Sorry, the Dommes do not travel. They don't even do outcalls in Bangkok, that is sessions in hotel rooms. I don't even like the term, too redolent of the escort business, ugh!

Most of the Dommes have never been outside of Thailand and do not even have passports.

Even were that not the case, they can hardly pack up the dungeon and bring it along. What is the point of having a proper dungeon if you go play elsewhere?

Sorry if I seem unsympathetic, but our subs come from all over the planet while Singapore and Malaysia are right next door. Little more than a century ago it was all one country (Siam). Wasn't it T.Abdul Rahman who said "I am Siamese, I am not Thai." And he of course was bornin in the Grand Palace in Bangkok.

joaudio
16-05-2007, 05:32 PM
Mistress Christie is coming to Singapore again from 31 May to 3June. Those interested better book fast. She emailed me 2 days ago, but unfortunately I will be away during that time :(

_listless
16-05-2007, 11:46 PM
should be mistress aria not christy

joaudio
19-05-2007, 07:48 AM
Yes you are right, It is Aria. My mistake

MatrixNeo
19-05-2007, 01:47 PM
Mistress Aria coming on May 30 - June 4

Mistress Christy coming on June 19 - June 24

It gona be a busy month ahha

DonCJ
19-05-2007, 09:43 PM
My advice is to hold out till Christy arrives.

She is by far the better half of that sister act.

Joe73
20-05-2007, 12:02 PM
My advice is to hold out till Christy arrives.

She is by far the better half of that sister act.

Any act over here is a good act.......Don why don't you get some of your girls to come down.....have tried Christy already and find her good are your girls comparable?

MatrixNeo
22-05-2007, 12:42 AM
Mistress Aria coming on May 30 - June 4

Mistress Christy coming on June 19 - June 24

It gona be a busy month ahha

Mistress Christy trip cancelled....she will be coming later in the year...not confirm yet

wwiss
22-05-2007, 02:09 PM
Wow, this thread is for very advance level brothers! :D

Must have alot of play time and wallet very full then can enjoy these recommendations.

I only begining to try try, so no standard yet to join here.

A new thread call BDSM List (Only for bros interested) have only 2 pages of postings more for newbies brothers like me to join, HEE HEE HEE.
Anyway, very good thread to learn from seniors here, to know the real outside world so BIG! :D

DonCJ
22-05-2007, 04:49 PM
Sorry, I won't be drawn into a comparison of my former protege Mistress Christy, who is still my friend, and the current Dommes of Chateau Jade (the Dragon Ladies). Mistresses of such caliber as Mistress Christy, Mistress Tahn, Mistress Oh, and Mistress April each are unique and should be seen as such. Any attempt at comparison is inherently demeaning and should be avoided.

Mistress Christy started her career as a professional Dominant in my House under my tutelage in early 1998. She had a different professional name then. She left, came back, left again, came back, this went on for 3-4 years. Then she was out of action for a few years for personal reasons and when she returned to the Scene she started her own studio and rechritened herself. I was very pleased that she was very open about her plans and did not try to capitalize on her former association by keeping her original Mistress name. And that is why we have always remained friends.

She was a very fine student and became a very talented Domme and she still is one of the best in the business.

One valid and non-offensive way to compare Mistresses is by experience. It is easy to calculate how many years Mistress Christy has been active from the above remarks. Nine years less a few years time off.

Mistress Tahn joined us in 1999 and has been here full time ever since.

Mistress Oh has four years fulltime Domme experience at Chateau Jade.

Mistress April, two years fulltime experience.

So you can now answer your own question.

I posted earlier about travel. Our Mistresses do not travel and we do not even do session outside of our Dungeon in Bangkok. Most of the Mistresses do not have passports. Hotel sessions make no sense to me, BDSM involves quite a bit of equipment and special furniture that is hardly portable. Hotel rooms are neither soundproof not secure. We simply don't get involved in this.

DonCJ
23-05-2007, 09:00 PM
Anyone ever have a session with Goddess Akira?

www.goddessakira.com

Email: [email protected]

For some reason she is listed in Thailand section of Max Fisch Domina Guide but, she is a Filipina judging by her contact telephone number starting with 0063 which is country code for the P.I. See Contacts page of her website

Apparently she travels for sessions; I do not know if she has a proper Dungeon in Phillipines. I do not know her rates, her experience or skill level so caveat emptor, brothers. Her photo gallery is skimpy, she does not much go in for scenewear (or at all) but she does have a whip in evidence, so that's something, and maybe she knows how to use it.

Feedback requested!

I know one very adept Domme in the Phillipines, but she does not have a website and she does sessions only outside of her own country. She in fact is talking about doing her sessions at Chateau Jade, she has been here in the flesh and it was a very enjoyable meeting. She calls herself Mistress Burning Angel.

The other startup Mistresses in Phillipines:

Mistress Silky: website closed
Princess Lee: website long gone
Mistress Angelina: website reduced to splash page with an announcement by Ms.A. that she is no longer in Phillipines and no longer accepting subs. She does hold out the possibility of a return next year, for what that is worth. I think she is in Europe and if so her earning power (if she is any good) is much greater there than in ASEAN.

OTHER Scene news in region:

Mistress Noi of Pattaya, Thailand has been in touch and reports she has rejoined the Scene after about a year's absence for personal reasons (happy ones.) She has opened a new studio in central Pattaya. (I have no details as yet.) Her website www.madamthai.com is gone and now being squatter on by some lowlife. Her old Geocities pages are still up, and her email address [email protected] is working.

I do not know Mistress Noi personally so can offer no 'consumer' advice. She is an independent, never associated with any of the established Houses in Thailand (CJ, Midori's or Christy's.) I believe she spend half the year in the UK but winters in Pattaya. I do not know if she travels otherwise, but at least it sounds like she has a passport.

dominion
23-05-2007, 09:56 PM
doncj, no offense but you starting to sound Shakespearean.
a thing they call soliloquy :D

DonCJ
24-05-2007, 03:06 AM
Soliloquy? Hardly.

One post responding to questions from a member.

And another with nothing but information on pro Domme in the region, none of whom have ever been discussed on this forum before, as far as I can see, and certainly not in this thread.

I see nothing to apologize for. Apparently I have more to say than most. It seems to me, I could scarcely have less. You for example, have anything constructive to add to this thread?

subway73
24-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Dear DonCJ,

have you heard of breath play, erotic asphy, scarfing, air walking.... stuff that gets you high.

Does any of the doms in CJ are experienced in these area.

I like to hear you comments about these bdsm categories of likes.

Thanks..

DonCJ
24-05-2007, 03:35 PM
Erotic asphyxia is very dangerous.

Anoxia makes you high and KILLS BRAIN CELLS

NOT recommended. Remember the basic rules of SM:

Keep is SAFE, SANE and CONSENTUAL.

McWoof0
25-05-2007, 05:27 PM
Hey bros,

I have made an appt with Mistress Aria on the 1st day. Have fun Bros!! This time she charges S$300.. wow .. getting higher and higher.. :( :(

kenken99
25-05-2007, 09:52 PM
Hey bros,

I have made an appt with Mistress Aria on the 1st day. Have fun Bros!! This time she charges S$300.. wow .. getting higher and higher.. :( :(

hello brother, write a FR after finishing. I had a session with Mistress Christy last time. It was good, but not as good as expected.

DonCJ
26-05-2007, 08:44 PM
How many hours is that session going to be for 300 Sg dollars?

McWoof0
29-05-2007, 11:23 AM
How many hours is that session going to be for 300 Sg dollars?


For 2 hrs only.. Its kinda of expensive.. but we have to understand that she took the trouble to fly here.. insetad of we going there..

DonCJ
29-05-2007, 05:07 PM
And she's got a hotel room to pay for, too.

What she is charging is the equivalent of $100 US an hour. Given the overhead she has to bear and the fact that there's not a single pro Domme in S'pore, I'd say Ms Aria and Ms Christy are giving you a bargain.

You know what going rates are like in HK? Believe me, you don't want to know.

The only pro Domme in Phuket charges equiv. $100 US an hour.

I could point you at an ad on the Net for an escort from the P.I. who travels throughout the region and a bit beyond. HK, Beijink, Macao, Shanghai, +++yo, KL, Djakarta, Bangkok, Phuket, S'pore. Mostly vanilla, but claims to offer light submission, Domination, fetish role play blah blah. Anyway I have met thi person socially and she is clueless. Young, drop dead gorgeous but clueless. She charges $200 US an hour - and she's a LADYBOY!

So all things considered Ms Aria's fee is far from onerous.

doctor sex
29-05-2007, 05:26 PM
Agreed, Mistress Aria and Christy are offering a good deal for Singapore and it's a great thing that they are coming down here for us.....I haven't found anything better in Singapore yet!

More and more PI ladyboys are coming here offering "BDSM" services. I was speaking to one a couple of weeks ago who said they are all being trained by a guy in Hong Kong called Patrick.

But if you want the real deal your best bet is still Mistress Christy.

ydgduo
30-05-2007, 03:02 AM
And she's got a hotel room to pay for, too.

You know what going rates are like in HK? Believe me, you don't want to know.

The only pro Domme in Phuket charges equiv. $100 US an hour.




i heard of rumor of high cost in hk and korea.
i would like to know the going cost of dom in hk. can you pls tell me?

DonCJ
31-05-2007, 01:22 AM
In Korea you will have a hard time finding any BDSM at all.

In HK when Fetish Fashion (HK's only Dungeon, defunct as of Aug 05) was still open they charged about $900HK for playroom (about size of a large closet) per hour and you had to supply your own Domme, going rates about $250 US/hr/

There are a couple of Dommes in HK with websites, I think there names are Mistress Kelly and Mistress Sandy. You can find their sites via Max Fisch Domina Guide, and obtain their fees directly from the Dommes. Hong Kong is simply outrageous and frankly rather British in SM style, lots of heavy CP and precious little else. If a Scene ever emerges or re-emerges in China I sincerely hope it is not going to take HK for a model.

ydgduo
01-06-2007, 02:37 AM
In Korea you will have a hard time finding any BDSM at all.


i heard some japanese mistress go there, i heard very high price.
korea red light is as conservative as singapore. so visiting mistress is only possible route for korean. Situation much like singapore.

i notice your site has changed, 2 less staff and 1 familiar staff back from the past. (i think, my mem never good) your site is pretty much the same from beginning.

But midori site have changed significantly to the better. much better than her old one.

jonah11
01-06-2007, 11:39 AM
Finally I have the time and chance to come back to this forum.

Been really busy and outstationed for the last couple of weeks.

And found something that is BDSM which is of my interest.

I am into BDSM and Femdom interest since 2000. Had experiences with some mistresses (not pro type) and surf many websites.

Hope to learn from brothers and sisters here.

Cheers!

DonCJ
01-06-2007, 12:23 PM
Yes, ydgduo, Yuey and Wednesday have left, retired after 8 years. And Mistress Oh has returned.

Those are old photos of Oh and not much like her present appearance, but,temporarily all we have till I can organize a good photo shoot.

The photos do not do Mistress Oh justice. She is gorgeous.

There is supposed to be one SM club in Korea, very private and for Koreans only. No I have no contact information.

Some Korean subs have visited us all the way in Bangkok. That is a more viable option than overpriced Japanese talent in a hotel room. The Koreans and the Japanese do not mix well anyway.

ydgduo
02-06-2007, 01:47 AM
Yes, ydgduo, Yuey and Wednesday have left, retired after 8 years. And Mistress Oh has returned.

Those are old photos of Oh and not much like her present appearance, but,temporarily all we have till I can organize a good photo shoot.

The photos do not do Mistress Oh justice. She is gorgeous.

There is supposed to be one SM club in Korea, very private and for Koreans only. No I have no contact information.

Some Korean subs have visited us all the way in Bangkok. That is a more viable option than overpriced Japanese talent in a hotel room. The Koreans and the Japanese do not mix well anyway.


come on and post some updated photos.
it is about time.
your website have not change the color scheme for 10 yrs???
even midori change like 2 times in color scheme.

korean sm club? wow, i am impressed, but i guess it is for the rich only.
korean customer to thailand - good idea. most probably cannot afford their own sm club.

jpglee
02-06-2007, 04:52 AM
i have came across and have the contact of a 25yo prc who is able to cater to such services. petite, vixen looks, vicious, open to games. pm for details.

jonah11
02-06-2007, 08:58 AM
Yes, ydgduo, Yuey and Wednesday have left, retired after 8 years. And Mistress Oh has returned.

Those are old photos of Oh and not much like her present appearance, but,temporarily all we have till I can organize a good photo shoot.

The photos do not do Mistress Oh justice. She is gorgeous.

There is supposed to be one SM club in Korea, very private and for Koreans only. No I have no contact information.

Some Korean subs have visited us all the way in Bangkok. That is a more viable option than overpriced Japanese talent in a hotel room. The Koreans and the Japanese do not mix well anyway.

I hope to learn from you bro. Read your replies. So wonderful ...

kenken99
02-06-2007, 11:01 AM
Any brother had the session with Aria this time. I booked the session with her today, but don't hear from her yet.

MatrixNeo
02-06-2007, 12:12 PM
what time is ur appt with her?

kenken99
02-06-2007, 12:18 PM
what time is ur appt with her?

it is at 1pm. still no news.

MatrixNeo
02-06-2007, 12:57 PM
wah...it's almost one now...and she have yet to contact you?

Today her first day in sg ?

subway73
02-06-2007, 01:02 PM
i have came across and have the contact of a 25yo prc who is able to cater to such services. petite, vixen looks, vicious, open to games. pm for details.

Bro, PRC BDSM?

The is new. and I never heard of it b4. Must be refreshing and a lot of training will be required to bring her up to standards.

I volunteer to train her, as I have been a follower of BDSM for many years and I got a trick or two nothing fancy in my pocket.

Bro, must let more brudders try her and she will learn by experience, then she can be our supplier of fetish here in Sg for bro who are into such stuff.

I have already PM you to request for a contact.

Cheers

Charles

kenken99
02-06-2007, 03:21 PM
Hey bros,

I have made an appt with Mistress Aria on the 1st day. Have fun Bros!! This time she charges S$300.. wow .. getting higher and higher.. :( :(

Brother. did you manage to have the session with Mistress Aria? I did book a session with her on June 2nd, 1pm, but she didn't contact me.

any brother could help me to forward the message to her if she is at Singapore now? I can pm you my cell phone number.

thank you.

McWoof0
02-06-2007, 03:33 PM
She is in SG alrdy.. She have contacted me..

kenken99
02-06-2007, 03:35 PM
She is in SG alrdy.. She have contacted me..

brother, can pm me her number or can help me to send her one message for that.

thank you

jpglee
03-06-2007, 02:49 AM
any bros tried clips4sale.com? just to share..

DonCJ
04-06-2007, 12:16 PM
So what happened with session w/Mistress Aria?

submarine
06-06-2007, 02:12 AM
any bros tried clips4sale.com? just to share..

check my pm..thanks dude

ydgduo
12-06-2007, 04:31 AM
check my pm..thanks dude

hey dude
you know mistress ming too?

tell us more about her.

her website not very clear.

micky_blues
13-06-2007, 06:32 PM
Has anyone try to access Mistress Christy's website www.dominachristy.com? I tried to access a few times but does not work. Any any bros has tried the service of Mistress Aria when she came here end of last month? Please update.
Thanks.

ydgduo
15-06-2007, 02:15 PM
Has anyone try to access Mistress Christy's website www.dominachristy.com? I tried to access a few times but does not work. Any any bros has tried the service of Mistress Aria when she came here end of last month? Please update.
Thanks.

so far only one person had share his experience with Christy and sister. the rest prefer to keep quiet. maybe it is a personal thing, everyone have different fetish.
I dun think anyone will admit they have baby nursing session in this forum, adult on napies, or force slut session, etc....
majority only go for good old sex in this forum. that is why there are no sm house, and there are sm clubs in thailand mainly because thailand is a massive tourist attraction.

DonCJ
15-06-2007, 05:10 PM
Mistress Christy's website IS still up, she told me herself that her subs in US and Europe can access it but those in Asia cannot. She is working to remedy this situation.

Very few of our subs are "tourists'. Some live here, most are business travellers and some come here from far away only for this. Singapore is certainly a destination for business travel, so you must look deeper for an explanation of why Bangkok has three good dungeons and a few more not so good while Singapore has 0 dungeons good or bad.

If the SM Scene in Thailand had waited for the Thais to do it, or of it depended on local subs alone then there still would not be any. You will note that there is essentially no SM Scene in any other country in South East Asia so Singapore is hardly unique.

There is also now almost no SM in Hong Kong since the government forced the closure of Fetish Fashions. There are a few independent Mistresses still but their premises are rather limited.

So it's Japan or Thailand in all of east Asia.

DonCJ
19-06-2007, 04:51 PM
Some new photos have been added to the main Chateau Jade website to replace the older ones of Mistress Oh that were temporarily up. Also Mistress Emerald has joined us. This is not the same Ms Emerald who was here briefly in our early years but an entirely new face. She liked that name so we have recycled it.

Mistress Emerald is from northern Thailand "Lanna Thai" a region considered to produce Thailans's greatest beauties. She is a close friend of Mistress Oh. We welcome her to the Dragon Ladies sorority of Chateau Jade.

Her arrival coincides with a record breaking session now under way.A first time submissive from Europe booked a seven day stay, then extended to eight days (already a record) and then to a whopping thirteen days! Now on Day 9 of his 13, with Mistresses Oh and Tahn, and Mistress Emerald assisting as part of her OJT.

Further revisions to the photo content will take place over the next few days as additional new images are edited.

Then we will turn our attentions to creating a pair of new personal websites for Mistress Oh and Mistress Emerald and populating them with photos, then getting them listed on the appropriate Mistress directories we like to use.

ydgduo
20-06-2007, 04:08 AM
new link does not work

DonCJ
20-06-2007, 10:25 AM
If you mean the links to Mistress Oh's website, and Mistress Emerald's website, of course they don't work yet, because as I said in the above post, those websites are now being registered and constructed. How can they work when the domains are only now being registered and the hosting set up?

Try again in a week or so. And next time read my post with a little more care, please.

DonCJ
22-06-2007, 04:33 PM
June 22 - Another fresh set of images went up today replacing the ones installed just 24 hours ago, we like these better. The black leather qipao looked great but the direct flash was not lighting the skin tones well, so we went to brighter less monochromatic outfits showing a lot more skin and the results seem to have justified the effort. Also we got Mistress April out for the latest shoot so all four of the Dragon Ladies of Chateau Jade are present and accounted for, which is as it should be.

The personal websites of Mistress Oh and Mistress Emerald will be registered today and hosting set up, so I will build these sites over the weekend. By Monday at latest the links will be working.

ydgduo
23-06-2007, 02:30 AM
nice
it is definitely an improvement
i wait for more.

cuppam1982
24-06-2007, 01:57 AM
hi bros,

i a newcomer,i am a sub, and crave for punishment. is there any mistress coming to singapore recently?? any q been form yet?:D

ydgduo
25-06-2007, 05:52 AM
go to thailand , japan or nyc.

singapore is no place for subs.

DonCJ
25-06-2007, 03:56 PM
And no better a place for Tops either, is it?

kingfisher69
25-06-2007, 04:23 PM
Hi There
A good place to go if you might be on a Trip in Sydney is ''Salon-Kitty''.
Very Professional, great selection, everything can!
Had good / painful times there..:)

http://www.salon-kitty.com.au

Cheers

conjurer
26-06-2007, 01:26 AM
Hi bros,

Read an online portal that a 35 year old asian dominatrix based in Australia is coming to Singapore from 5th - 8th July. Not sure whether i could post her website here. I am NOT advertising nor her OKT, just wanna inform all bdsm lovers. If you wanna know the website feel free to pm me but contact her directly hor :p

Here is the quote taken from a bdsm-related portal.

An experienced Dominatrix with a Twist......

Ever wondered what it would be like to serve a beautiful woman who can bind you with beauty and eroticism. The presence of HER so Powerful that you hold your breath when SHE enters the room...your knees weak underneath you...your groin quivers at the thought of HER

....yet kneeling, you wait...hoping that SHE will grace you with Her touch, Her words, Her commands....

That SHE may reach out and touch you gently, then be harsh with you for your insolence.....Maybe, just maybe...SHE will just punish you to put a smile on HER beautiful face.....

Treat you like a little slut......
Like a useless slave....
Like a sex toy.....

My interest in BDSM is wide and varied. You may email me with your fantasies/fetish/roleplay.

Walk the fine line of pleasure and pain with a trained Mistress.

IN Singapore on 5th July to 8th July only.

My Ideal Person:
I welcome financial slaves and experienced Masters. Someone who would like to add pleasures of all kinds to my stopover. Sessions and shopping trips by appointment only. A person who is capable of crawling around my site on the world wide web, under the same intro title.

Do check it out when you can.

DonCJ
26-06-2007, 01:47 AM
Prepare yourself for Western prices, brothers. If you think Mistress Christy and Mistress Aria are pricey, you haven't seen anything yet if a Domme from Oz is coming to town.

Anyway

Mistress Oh's personal website is now up. It is about 90% complete, except for the links pages which still need some attention from me. And doubtless some of the images may change in the coming weeks as better ones become available.

Http://www.mistressohcj.com

Enjoy!

Mistress Emerald' site will be up, probably later this week, after some technical glitches are resolved.

DonCJ
29-06-2007, 03:46 PM
Mistress Emerald's website is now up, the photos will be changing soon, these are mostly just temp placeholders

Http://www.mistress-emeraldcj.com

Schrodinger
01-07-2007, 02:38 PM
Hi bros,
[B]
Read an online portal that a 35 year old asian dominatrix based in Australia is coming to Singapore from 5th - 8th July. Not sure whether i could post her website here. I am NOT advertising nor her OKT, just wanna inform all bdsm lovers. .

Prepare yourself for Western prices, brothers. If you think Mistress Christy and Mistress Aria are pricey, you haven't seen anything yet if a Domme from Oz is coming to town..

My FR somewhere in this thread is on this very lady.

Also, recall someone saying Christy/Aria are asking for S$300? If that's the case, my session with this Oz-based Asian lady (S'porean actually - she still has family here which is why she comes back a few times a year) is not much more - think it was S$320 or something.

She's a really petite lady though. Those seeking tall commanding dommes might wish to take note. But you'll definitely be shorter than her once you're on your knees or on all fours... :D Also, this lady likes to push limits - she'll find out what you've been curious about but never tried - then she'll somehow work it into the session. I had fun, but that's me...

ydgduo
02-07-2007, 03:05 AM
Oz-based Asian lady (S'porean actually - she still has family here which is why she comes back a few times a year) is not much more - think it was S$320 or something.
..

what her name and website?

DonCJ
04-07-2007, 03:46 PM
She sounds a bit like Violently, also very petite, also from Sg, but V. is a pro Domme in UK not in Oz.

Nothing wrong with pushing limits as long as she doesn't just hyrdle them, and as long as hard limits are always respected.

There's some daffy American Domme who calls herself Penelope St Devi from Las Vegas hanging out at Bar Bar on Patpong Road in Bangkok all July.

I say daffy because Bar Bar is not the Scene, it's a whorehouse, so a pro Domme being a guest Mistress there would be like a pro Domme being a guest Mistress in Gaylang.

Anyway Patpong is rather deserted these days so I doubt she is going to have much chance to earn back her air ticket costs. In August she is supposed to be flitting around elsewhere in SE Asia so maybe she will stop in Sg, I dunno. We are not on amicable terms.

ydgduo
06-07-2007, 09:23 AM
Hi bros,

Read an online portal that a 35 year old asian dominatrix based in Australia is coming to Singapore from 5th - 8th July. Not sure whether i could post her website here. I am NOT advertising nor her OKT, just wanna inform all bdsm lovers. If you wanna know the website feel free to pm me but contact her directly hor :p n.

can you provide the information about her instead.tks.

MatrixNeo
07-07-2007, 05:38 PM
Manage to contact her but she says she is fully booked...guess can only wait for her next trip here.

ydgduo
10-07-2007, 07:33 AM
Manage to contact her but she says she is fully booked...guess can only wait for her next trip here.

fully book again

someone got to start a sm house in singapore
look like a way to print money

DonCJ
11-07-2007, 01:08 AM
"Fully booked" may be a polite way of saying "Fuck off"

I'd like to know what "bdsm-related portal" this information came from. Sounds like collarme-com or alt.com or maybe bondage.com - all very dodgy and chock full of phonies, poseurs and scam artistes.

If this alleged Domina has a website what is the url?

And if she does not - time for a reality check.

McWoof0
11-07-2007, 12:46 PM
Mistress Christy will be in town next week.

Schrodinger
11-07-2007, 06:21 PM
I've met up with a Domme who advertises in various places - yahoo, alt.com, AFF, etc.

This lady goes by the name Mistress Sateen. According to her, she's a mix of Caucasian and Pacific Islander and she's originally from Hawaii. She's 31 y/o, about 1.7+m tall, slightly fleshy (not fat - I wouldn't even say plump), tanned and has decent looks.

She has a little toy and equipment collection and laments the lack of facilities in this country. She actually had straps for suspension but obviously there were no ceiling hooks where we were for her to be able to use them. She's reasonably experienced (4 years according to her, in USA, UK and Europe) and she really seems to get off while domme-ing. Said she enjoyed the squirming and looks on her subs' faces while she's dominating them... Skills-wise, she's definitely no beginner, but I think the Oz-based Singaporean lady mentioned earlier in this thread is better.

It was originally meant to be a 1-hour session, but we got along real well and chat quite a bit - from start-to-end she was with me for a total of 3 hrs! And she didn't ask for anything extra, which shows she's not a clock-watcher - if she clicks with the client. She's got pretty good plans to spice up the scene here a little - it depends on how well she can execute them... If anything comes to fruition, I will definitely inform bros here.

Enjoyable overall... we already have plans on what she wants to try on me the next time we meet...

Name: Mistress Sateen
Age: 31
Ethnicity: Caucasian/Pacific Islander Mix
Looks: 6/10
Body: 6.5/10 (7/10 if you're a boobs man - Im more of a legs person)
Experience/Skill: 7/10
Equipment: 7/10
Dressing: 7.5/10 (she wore a sexy negligee, fishnet hold-up stockings and heels)
Attitude: 8/10 (we clicked well and I liked that she wasn't a clock-watcher)
Damage: $350-$400
RTS: Yes

p.s. I do have permission to give her contact to interested bros - but please, pm me only if there is some way I can verify that you are a genuine punter (you need to have posted FRs. Rep pts are meaningless if they have been gained through posting of pics and links). If I do not reply, it means I am not comfortable giving you her contact so please - there is no need to re-pm me. Anyway, I think I have given enough clues on how to find her!

subway73
12-07-2007, 09:53 AM
Bros,

I saw this ad on yahoo.

Same mistress in Singapore, WOW!!! the scene here is picking up!!!! searched slave and this was what i got!!!!!

Tried calling her yesterday but she was furious when in asked if she was a trans.... had to be sure mah...i got a scolding and phone slammed. Looks like i got to give this a missed, I tries Aria before, May and Fiona.

Any bros here to kind enuff to share the Oz contact with me? I need a misstress!!!! pls help!!!

Wanna b dominated? Wanna b humiliated? Wanna b wrapped like a Mummy? Wanna b whipped n gagged? Call Mistress Sateen for ur BDSM needs. For enquiries call: +=#$%^$*n ask for Mistress Sateen! NO SMS WILL B ENTERTAINED!!!

McWoof0
12-07-2007, 06:30 PM
Hey Dudes,

Mistress Christy will be in town next week from 17-21 July.. Make your bookings now to avoid dissappointment!! Only a few slots left..

email her at [email protected] now!!

Fmcane
13-07-2007, 01:19 AM
Thks to bro Conjurer for the info on Oz Mistress.

Manage to book and have a session with her last week.
I like the way she conduct the interview before the real action, maybe that's the different between pro & non-pro. Provided my short FR, however, will not be going into my session details :p

My humble opinion, may not applicable to other bros hor.
Age : never ask, think at least >35.
Look : 5.5
Body : 5 (petite, but condition is not my type)
Experience / Skill : 8
Equipment : 9 (she brought something that is my favorite :D )
Dressing : 7
Attitude : 9 (very good chatter, ezy going)
Damage : 1hr-$320, 1.5hr-$470, 2hr-$570 (she seems to qoute different price for different session)

Like bro Schrodinger, me too do not have permission to circulate her contact. She have since left sg. However, she mention that she will be back somewhere 20+ of jul, and may consider taking some appointment.
Interested bros can try requesting by sending her a mail. PM me for her web address.

jss10
14-07-2007, 10:26 AM
Bros,

I saw this ad on yahoo.

Same mistress in Singapore, WOW!!! the scene here is picking up!!!! searched slave and this was what i got!!!!!

Tried calling her yesterday but she was furious when in asked if she was a trans.... had to be sure mah...i got a scolding and phone slammed. Looks like i got to give this a missed, I tries Aria before, May and Fiona.

Any bros here to kind enuff to share the Oz contact with me? I need a misstress!!!! pls help!!!

Wanna b dominated? Wanna b humiliated? Wanna b wrapped like a Mummy? Wanna b whipped n gagged? Call Mistress Sateen for ur BDSM needs. For enquiries call: +=#$%^$*n ask for Mistress Sateen! NO SMS WILL B ENTERTAINED!!!

Called Mistree Sateen ... found her to be rather crude and not very lady-like ... she was practically barking on the phone ... guess she thinks everyone calling her is a prankster ... really a turn off actually ... don't blame bro Subway from asking her if she is a ladyboy - I had my doubts as well.

I guess I will have to pass this and wait for Christy who will be in town from 17th to 21st ....

Schrodinger
14-07-2007, 11:43 AM
... guess she thinks everyone calling her is a prankster ... really a turn off actually ... don't blame bro Subway ....

Actually, I dun blame her for losing her patience.

She had turned her phone off during our session, but the moment she turned it on after we were done and chatting, she kept receiving these calls that rang once or twice, then cut off. Even those she managed to answer, were beating about the bush, didn't actually know what they wanted and in general on fishing expeditions.

Eg. when she asked what this guy was looking for (as she works with other ladies who provide escorting and massage services) - escort or domination, this guy said 'both' and when asked if he knew what domination was, his reply was 'no'. Receive 20 or 30 of these calls a day and your patience might be well-stretched too.

When I first called her, we had a pretty good chat over the phone as well and she got to know my experience, preferences, etc. I guess the saying 'do unto others what you want others to do unto you' applies very much to her - I gave good attitude and got good attitude in return.

But well, perhaps I was just lucky and caught her in a good mood.

KatoeyLover69
14-07-2007, 11:50 AM
For lovers of BDSM :-

( Postings # 261, 262 & 263 )


http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=70256&page=18

jss10
15-07-2007, 08:35 PM
Actually, I dun blame her for losing her patience.

She had turned her phone off during our session, but the moment she turned it on after we were done and chatting, she kept receiving these calls that rang once or twice, then cut off. Even those she managed to answer, were beating about the bush, didn't actually know what they wanted and in general on fishing expeditions.

Eg. when she asked what this guy was looking for (as she works with other ladies who provide escorting and massage services) - escort or domination, this guy said 'both' and when asked if he knew what domination was, his reply was 'no'. Receive 20 or 30 of these calls a day and your patience might be well-stretched too.

When I first called her, we had a pretty good chat over the phone as well and she got to know my experience, preferences, etc. I guess the saying 'do unto others what you want others to do unto you' applies very much to her - I gave good attitude and got good attitude in return.

But well, perhaps I was just lucky and caught her in a good mood.


Well ... anyway this person has lost one good client ... maybe she should get a few lessons on customer service ... Christy will definitely be a good tutor .. :)

DonCJ
17-07-2007, 02:55 PM
Professional Dommes/Mistresses are not performing a service, and are no one's servants.

It's the subs who pay to perform the service. The Mistresses get paid for their time and their skill.

Quite a number of times I have told off some sub who needed an attitude adjustment. "You can't talk to me like that, you're in the customer service business!" I laugh at them.

Ten years and 3000 subs later, from 200 nations, and they are still coming.

I think I have a sound graps of the basic principles.

And I'm the one who taught Christy her trade.

McWoof0
17-07-2007, 07:18 PM
I am serving mistress christy later today. I hoep to have an wonderful session with her.. :) :)

cant wait for worship her feet

DonCJ
18-07-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm sure that anyone lucky enough to serve Mistress Christy will have a wonderful time.

Give her my warmest regards.

It's been a couple of weeks since we spoke.

jss10
18-07-2007, 09:43 PM
Professional Dommes/Mistresses are not performing a service, and are no one's servants.

It's the subs who pay to perform the service. The Mistresses get paid for their time and their skill.

Quite a number of times I have told off some sub who needed an attitude adjustment. "You can't talk to me like that, you're in the customer service business!" I laugh at them.

Ten years and 3000 subs later, from 200 nations, and they are still coming.

I think I have a sound graps of the basic principles.

And I'm the one who taught Christy her trade.

10 years - 3000 subs ... works to aroun 0.8 sub a day ..... hmmm ... looks like if u had not been laughing so much over the last 10 years ... u might have been making a lot more money ... :)

DonCJ
19-07-2007, 12:54 PM
You sound like some sort of a bean counter.

Your comment has no validity because you seem to assume that we do 1 hr sessions.

We don't. Our average session is about a day and a half long.

Furthermore, that's 3000 DISCREET subs, not counting repeats. 75% of those 3000 have returned for more sessions, many of them many many times. 3000 is the number of individual subs NOT the number of sessions. The number of sessions is well over 15,000. Also we have 4 to 6 Dommes at any given time in that ten years and 3 playspaces, so we have never had a problem running 2 sometimes 3 sessions concurrently.

In short, I laugh a lot more than you seem to think.

Finally you seem to think this is all about the money. Wrong again!

I started Chateau Jade because ten years ago Bangkok was EXACTLY like Sg - NO DOMMES, NO DUNGEON. No fun, unless you regard the plentiful vanilla fuck&suck as fun. No kink. Well, I changed that, along with Mistresses Midori, Chastity nee Christy, Virginia and Cherry. There's a Scene in Thailand now because I had an itch I couldn't scratch. And I did something about it. And anyone who thinks it is arrogant of me to say so, can kiss my ass. Becaise it is the truth.

jss10
19-07-2007, 09:42 PM
You sound like some sort of a bean counter.

Your comment has no validity because you seem to assume that we do 1 hr sessions.

We don't. Our average session is about a day and a half long.

Furthermore, that's 3000 DISCREET subs, not counting repeats. 75% of those 3000 have returned for more sessions, many of them many many times. 3000 is the number of individual subs NOT the number of sessions. The number of sessions is well over 15,000. Also we have 4 to 6 Dommes at any given time in that ten years and 3 playspaces, so we have never had a problem running 2 sometimes 3 sessions concurrently.

In short, I laugh a lot more than you seem to think.

Finally you seem to think this is all about the money. Wrong again!

I started Chateau Jade because ten years ago Bangkok was EXACTLY like Sg - NO DOMMES, NO DUNGEON. No fun, unless you regard the plentiful vanilla fuck&suck as fun. No kink. Well, I changed that, along with Mistresses Midori, Chastity nee Christy, Virginia and Cherry. There's a Scene in Thailand now because I had an itch I couldn't scratch. And I did something about it. And anyone who thinks it is arrogant of me to say so, can kiss my ass. Becaise it is the truth.

So sorry sir .. not a bean counter really ... but looking at the scene in sg ... there are but none who fit the billl ... I have been to your place in bkk .. and believe u me, it was an experience of a life time ... but at the end of the day, if a mistress is to be successfull in sg, she should at least look at the possibilty of building a customer base ... and being cocky will not help! ... :)

DonCJ
20-07-2007, 01:49 AM
I don't know this Mistress from Oz, so I have no brief for or against her. As she is a Singaporean herself, I'd imagine she knows how to talk to her compatriots. Perhaps Oz has ruined her.

In general you are quite correct and one gets more flies with sugar than with vinegar. Offhand I would suggest that she should have screened applicants by email before giving out her phone and maybe she would have had fewer undesirable (or crank) calls than the other brother reported above.

I am pretty irascible on forums but in person I'm a nice guy. However I have little to do with the day to day operation of CJ since about four years ago. New subs never even meet me, unless and until they have been here several times (if then). Old friends are another matter. If you are one of thise then I am sorry I was supercilious above.

sloworbit
26-07-2007, 10:14 PM
Oz Mistress.... Would anyone mind pm'g me the contact detail for Oz Mistress? Would like to send her an email.

KatoeyLover69
07-08-2007, 01:57 PM
Report from The STAR (Malaysia)dated Tuesday 7 August 2007 :-

‘Men bored with marital sex after five years’ of marriage

ABOUT 80% of married men face erectile dysfunction five years into their marriage because of having a single sex partner, China Press reported yesterday.

It quoted Singapore's Dr Yu Wei Siang, who is otherwise known as Doctor Love, as saying that 50% of men faced the problem with their sex partner after being married for between three and five years and 80% of them after being married for five years.

The paper said it was normal for a married couple to experience low libido after having the same partner for a long period of time.

Dr Yu was invited by the Johor Baru Tionghua Federation to speak in Johor Baru about sex on Sunday.

Most members of the audience preferred to ask questions via SMS.

He advised married couples to take the trouble to look for new environment and stimulation.
--- KatoeyNewsNetwork

ydgduo
12-08-2007, 05:31 PM
I dun dare to try. Some of you may be braver. Please do and feedback if it is con or real?

http://www.femdomale.com/dominatrix-Beijing-China.html

http://www.femdomale.com/dominatrix-Zhejing-China.html

http://www.femdomale.com/dominatrix-Henan-China.html

http://www.femdomale.com/dominatrix-Nanjing-China-Mistress-Yaoyue.html

DonCJ
17-08-2007, 07:54 PM
There have in the last decade been a number of SM scams out of the mainland of China, most notably Empress Dynasty.

Only time will tell about the ones posted above.

mnp109
20-08-2007, 10:13 AM
So I'm going to be passing through Singapore on business for a few days this week. Are there any Pro dommes currently in the area? Mistress Christy isn't going to be there and there are no recent postings in yahoo classifieds. Anyone have any contact info?

ydgduo
25-08-2007, 01:41 AM
Hey DonCJ
something wrong with your site recently?
cannot access.

anyway, what is happening in BAR BAR anyway, Is it a pub? Is it a SM house? or PUB with SM show? what going on there?

DonCJ
28-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Nothing wrong with Chateau Jade's site.

Bar Bar is not an SM house, nor is it a pub, nor is it a fetish club. It is purely and simply a Patpong bar and is open to the public. It conforms to standard Paypong opening time (sundown), so there is no opportunity for any daytime fun.

The supposed Mistresses and slaves are simply Patpong bar girls who before joining Bar Bar were go go dancers, they know nothing of BDSM, they sell sex, and all the rest is just the thinnest possible veneer. The management know nothing and care less. In short it's an abomination and I doubt it will last long. I get regular reports from our guests who have visited Bar Bar and the other two identical places (one in Bangkok, other in Pattaya) and not one of them says anything good about those places and all vow never to return there.

McWoof0
03-09-2007, 05:10 PM
Dear Bros,

Mistress Aria will be in town from 20th -24th Sept..

DonCJ
04-09-2007, 04:09 PM
Yesterday we received an email in the early afternoon from someone who identified himself as a Singaporean and said he wanted a session at 11 pm last night (Monday) or possibly tonight.

He gave no hotel details but did provide a Sg (code 65) handphone number, and asked that we call him.

I emailed back immediately, noit more than an hour after he sent the email, and confirmed that a session Monday night 11 pm was possible with Mistress Tahn and Mistress Oh, and asked for hotel details so we could pick him up.

No reply.

8 pm still no reply so Mistress Oh called him.

He told her he never said he would be in BAngkok Monday night.

Which was not true.

So he wasted our time and made us make an IDD call to him for nothing. Ms Oh said he sounded drunk.

SO he is now blacklisted. We will never accept a booking from him. Ever. In fact he emailed again today and I deleted it unread.

And that is how we put out the trash.

ydgduo
07-09-2007, 01:06 AM
really just like that blackmail?
give him a chance lah
maybe he got some problem - business or family problem

easy he can make another of those gmail, yahoo, hotmail and send you again.
another pre paid sim card will solve the problem

unless there are some problem, i am off to tokyo la siora to enjoy myself. sorry, your gals are nice, but they are nicer even.

KatoeyLover69
08-09-2007, 05:05 PM
Gorgeous Fetish Girls :-

Posting # 619 at :-

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=2261949&posted=1#post2261949

Mclaren
08-09-2007, 09:50 PM
are there any pure caucasian dominant mistresses in singapore?

DonCJ
10-09-2007, 03:45 AM
You missed the point.

Maybe he's just a druken lout who is to irresponsible to keep his commitments.

I don't care. Sure he can make up another email account, but at the end of the day he either does what he says he will do or he does not.

We are quite ruthless with those who waste our time.

subway73
11-09-2007, 12:10 PM
are there any pure caucasian dominant mistresses in singapore?

I think there is this Mistress SATEEN from yahoo, she is Hawaii citizen

not sure if that qualifies to be a pure C. but you can try and give FR>

Btw she is short fused and loses temper easily

Schrodinger
11-09-2007, 05:41 PM
I think there is this Mistress SATEEN from yahoo, she is Hawaii citizen

not sure if that qualifies to be a pure C...

Sateen is a pacific islander - which is most definitely not caucasian and she doesn't even remotely look caucasian.

Seek her out only if you have a certain level of experience. She's not one for newbies - especially if you are going to hem and haw over the phone. I personally saw how some folks will call up and then hang up. And then some call up not knowing what they want. That's how she loses patience.

And oh, she's from Hawaii, which would make her an American citizen ;)

DonCJ
12-09-2007, 12:38 AM
Remember to avoid asking Ms Sateen if she is a ladyboy. THAT really sends her into orbit. As one might expect.

McWoof0
13-09-2007, 03:56 PM
Anyone made appt with mistress aria on next thurs night? 20th sept.

Thanks

sickindahead
15-09-2007, 06:29 PM
DonJC, any personal recommendations for a english speaking mistress in UK/NL area for role play fetishes?

ydgduo
18-09-2007, 06:30 AM
UK and NL is a lousy place for doms. unless you like OLD and FAT doms.
you came to the right place.
www.maxfisch.com is the best place to look.
As you can see, the best place seem to be NYC and tokyo (language problem).

also UK price is a bit high. some ask 200-300 pounds per hour.shocking.

subway73
18-09-2007, 09:19 AM
Have contacted Aria,

in fact i was on of the first to use her and then her rates were 150- 250. 1- 2hrs Subsequently she was busy and she was out of my radar scope for about 1 year.

I just wrote her a mail again and now her rates are gone up like the RMB and stock mkt!!! 350-400 for 2 hrs session and same goes for 1 hour.

If it is in a dungeon like in cheateau jade i can accept but how real can it get in a hotel room without padded walls and proper props, even if she is a pro.

If any bros here are using her, we might want to consider petitioning.

just a thought

DonCJ
18-09-2007, 01:23 PM
Isn't ydgduo the perennial windowshopper (self described)

We are supposed to believe he is going to Tokyo, or NYC.

But by his own posts he can't afford Bkk!

He is quite wrong about NL and UK as there are many fine Dommes in both who are neither old nor far and rates in UK are often among lowesrt in EU.

FAR lower than in Tokyo.

He is right that Max Fisch is the very best Dominatrix Directory.

But about all else he is a tire kicker with no first hand knowledge or experience. Get a life!

sickindahead
18-09-2007, 11:53 PM
For me size and age is not really that important of an issue. Also i will be that region for some time so i was just thinking of trying out the scene there just for experience regardless of wheather there are cheaper better deals else where or not.

I'm also aware of Max Fisch but the problem with it is, with soooo many choices on it, its really hard to tell if its a really good dom or if its just one thats very good at marketing.

One intresting one i saw is Domination Palace. Kinda smilar concept as CJ. While the others are mostly if not all solo joints

ydgduo
19-09-2007, 12:15 AM
but tokyo is a business trip, so i got all my hotel and flight paid for.

UK and NL being there done that. I standby my observation for UK and NL, mostly old, fat, black or black fat and old. There are lookers, but the price are skyhigh. I spend hours searching for a decent dom in UK and NL during business trip. NOTHING to my taste.

whorehouse or smhouse are illegal in UK, no sm house, just a house or shophouse with room converted to dungeon.

NL, there are several sm house, very nicely decorated, but the gals are old. sometime they have new gals, but they all left after a few months, therefore concluded that there customers are very old and prefer older women and fat older women.

at the rate of sterling pound and EURO. better stick to USA or Japan (if on business trip)

to that guy who looking for dom, tell us what you want, then we can recommend, what type of doms? what services? we cannot read your mind.
But to prevent being rid off, i suggest you go to an sm house, where they are several doms, and they have a don, which keep certain min standard.

DonCJ
19-09-2007, 01:31 AM
Domination Palace is owned by our good friend Paul and is a top class establishment.

That is in Endhoven, not Amsterdam

Another is Club DOMA in den Haag, owned by our good friend John, now run by his daughter. 27 years in operation.

Both I highly recommend.

ydgduo
19-09-2007, 03:48 AM
mistress Laura and mistress Tara , ex doms

so much better than the new generation.....


sob............................................... ..


doma website look more like a porn site than an sm house. i think they prefer to sell videos and rent rooms.

singwong
19-09-2007, 04:25 AM
Hi Bro,

do you have the contact for mistress aria? like to try her service

Dear Bros,

Mistress Aria will be in town from 20th -24th Sept..

ydgduo
19-09-2007, 05:37 AM
Hi Bro,

do you have the contact for mistress aria? like to try her service

supply and demand had raise the price of her service

to the point where, maybe a trip to don place or his student midori or midori student bella ----> sm house much better in value.

hotel room is not good for sm

i can hear sometime the fxxker next door snoring, what can they hear during an session. maybe too much.

can you write a mail to [email protected]

DonCJ
19-09-2007, 12:48 PM
If you are going to pay such prices for a hotel session in Sg I recommend you hold out for Mistress Christy herself rather than Aria her sister and understudy.

As for the Houses in Bkk, I recommend Midori's and Christy's as well as CJ but, absolutely and utterly do NOT recommend Bella's (ThaiDomina). Very poor quality not to be taken seriously.

McWoof0
19-09-2007, 04:26 PM
If you are going to pay such prices for a hotel session in Sg I recommend you hold out for Mistress Christy herself rather than Aria her sister and understudy.

As for the Houses in Bkk, I recommend Midori's and Christy's as well as CJ but, absolutely and utterly do NOT recommend Bella's (ThaiDomina). Very poor quality not to be taken seriously.


I have tried both of them and i personally prefer mistress aria.. as she is younger..

DonCJ
20-09-2007, 11:55 AM
Well, there's no accounting for taste. Christy certainly has more experience, ten years worth, easily twice as much as her younger sister (if not a larger multiple.) Many subs will prefer the seasoned Domme.

But then I have never played with Aria, while I have very fond memories of Christy from when she was still Mistress Chastity of Chateau Jade.

Bounder
20-09-2007, 04:46 PM
Went to Midori house of domination (Bangkok) last year. Not good experience, didn't make me feel like I wanted to go back.

Planning to check out Empress Lucy in Phuket next month, anybody know anything about her?

Check out MistressEdz in Bangkok on Collarme.com, I chatted with her recently, rates are very good 2000 tb first hour and 1000 tb for subsequent hours. I'm definitely going to give her a try next time in bangkok

DonCJ
23-09-2007, 12:41 PM
Beware of sollarme.com, alt.com etc as almost all those ads are totally phony.

A supposed pro Domme without a website is a joke.

Empress Lucy (Phuket) is mid thirtees, and for many years was working for Midori. I have not met her, but she is married to a Belgian guy who used to be a sub at CJ. They have four kids.

I hear good things from some people about Lucy. Note that she also has a website as Mistress Nui.

She charges $100 US an hour.

ydgduo
24-09-2007, 05:16 AM
yeah i only do sm house.


hey doncj , what is history of dominatrix?

Did it originate from France? since it is taboo, not much information was available.

But i seen some discovery program about brothel in France. They have some SM , which is pretty old. I think france have such place from late 1800 to ww1 time.

Do you know?

robhol
26-09-2007, 10:45 PM
....As for the Houses in Bkk, I recommend Midori's and Christy's as well as CJ but, absolutely and utterly do NOT recommend Bella's (ThaiDomina). Very poor quality not to be taken seriously.

Please DonCJ, could you explain further why ThaiDomina is not to be recommended?

/Rob

ydgduo
27-09-2007, 03:44 AM
http://www.mistresswoo.com/home1.html

shanghai femdom

true service or fake??? anyone brave enough to recce for the rest of us.

thank you very much beta user

DonCJ
28-09-2007, 10:38 AM
ThaiDomina:

Incompetent
Inexperienced
Unprofessional
Insome cases they have expanded staff with prostitutes, which is a very bad ides.

Background:

Two of these ladies worked very briefly as part time assistants at Chateau Jade long ago. One of them (Bell) then vanished and turned up at Midori's. Then she and another one of Midori's girls broke away from Midori and started an ill fated dungeon called House of Asian Godesses (HAG) which promptly fell apart as the women started fighting with each other. A few of them went back to Midori who foolishly let them return. Within a short time they AGAIN left Midori's and started ThaiDomina. But once again they were troubled by internal strife and two of them, Omm and June, returned AGAIN to Midori's. At that point Bell (now Bella) brought in the two bar girls plus the only other former CJ temp, now calling herself Joy, who had also been working in a Sukhumvit bar for several years.

June has since left Midori's and is off on her own (AsiaDomina, ugh!)

The only one at ThaiDomina who was (reportedly) worth a damn was Omm and she is still at Midori's and doing well.

The rest of ThaiDomina staff in my opinion, never stayed in one place long enough to learn anything about the craft and science of Domination. And half of their present staff are simply prostitutes. Prostitutes make piss poor Mistresses.

Therefore I do not recommend ThaiDomina.

Whereas I do recommend both Mistress Midori's and Mistress Christy's. So do not accuse me of "slanging the competition". ThaiDomina is not our competition. Mistress Midori's is, and Mistress Christy's is. But I recommend them. Along with Chateau Jade's five Dominas they represent the real Fem Dom in South East Asia (perhaps with a nod also to Mistress Lucy in Phuket aka Mistress Nui aka Empress Lucy.)

The others are just also-rans.

I know of a single real Mistress in the Phillipines, and none in any of the eight other countries in the region. And the one in PI does not have a website.

ydgduo
28-09-2007, 11:38 PM
ThaiDomina:
Along with Chateau Jade's five Dominas they represent the real Fem Dom in South East Asia .

Since when did you have 5?

DonCJ
01-10-2007, 12:02 AM
Since Mistress Doll rejoined us.

She's just not back up on the website yet.

You see, there's the real world, and there's the virtual world.

The two are not always in perfect harmony. But the real world is still more important.

subway73
02-10-2007, 07:04 PM
Guys,

found two dominas from Vicesisters in SG. one is Miss d and the other is vanessa, both are lady boy, so there will poke you from behind without having to use a dildo.

Do a search in www.vicesisters.com to varify

DonCJ
03-10-2007, 08:36 PM
Oh, please. People are paranoid about Mistresses in this part of the world being ladyboys, without having to involve ladyboys.

Fem Domme is FEMALE Domination, and not domination by some bloke in a frock.

Joe73
18-10-2007, 10:57 PM
If Mistress Sateen is as good as she is rude....then i think she would be a top notch mistress......anyone tried her got any comments

Gustav Gestapo
30-10-2007, 07:03 PM
For those who come to Sydney:

Salon Kitty's, 310 Cleveland St., Surry Hills, Sydney.

www.salonkittys.com
www.clubkitty.com.au
www.mistressamanda.com

Cheers

DonCJ
10-11-2007, 05:50 PM
What "bad reviews" of Chateau Jade?

There are none, at least none with any credibility.

Chateau Jade has been in continuous operation for ten years. Ten years. Longer than every other dungeon in Thailand put together. That means every other dungeon in South East Asia put together, because there are none anywhere else in ASEAN.

This is the best equipped, best staffed, largest and most experienced Dungeon for a long way around.

Anyone who says otherwise has never set foot in here.

teraterm55
13-11-2007, 02:24 AM
hey bros,

just found a lady that can satisfy PH fetish bros. please check out my post here http://forum.sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=2389529&postcount=2293

Schrodinger
15-11-2007, 07:43 PM
Been meaning to post this but too busy and kept forgetting...

GL cat150 girl Star, L18H05, dabbles in some BDSM. She's still a novice but she is quick to learn and not shy about it. I brought my toys and she had quite a bit of fun going through them. It was quite a good experience even though she's a newbie. We started off with her as the domme, but the playful nature in her wanted to try switching near the end. So I used some of my toys on her and we finished off with her 'normal' service. Good fun if you go with an attitude of just having some naughty kinky fun with a friend, rather than expecting a strict dominatrix.

The only down side - you will have to bring your own toys and equipment as she doesn't have any of her own.

Have fun...

ang076
15-11-2007, 08:21 PM
Wow! GL CAT150 Star do BDSM!!!

Can she do tarma with another gal, and don Strap-on, and bonk my ass (whereas I am on all fours.) while another gal console me, french me?

If yes, then she will be next after my regular CAT 150 gal..

Can provide Star vital statistics? (I will be buying lingerie set and strap on for her to wear.. next time)

Schrodinger
15-11-2007, 09:49 PM
...Can she do tarma with another gal, and don Strap-on, and bonk my ass (whereas I am on all fours.) while another gal console me, french me?...

Like I said, she's rather new to this so take it slow and easy. Don't get too excited. And definitely DO NOT expect her to be a strict dominatrix type. I took pains to explain in my previous post that she's more of the kinky playful friend type.

I only discovered by chance that she was open to the idea cos in a previous session, there was a pair of tongs in the bathroom while we were taking our shower - she jokingly said she'd use it on my bro and I said that I might enjoy it... and the rest, as they say, is history.

As for her stats, it was quite some time ago so I cannot remember exactly. She's shortish, about 1.56m, slightly curvy. No idea about boob size since I'm not a boobs person.

ang076
16-11-2007, 08:14 AM
Haha, Bro.

thanks for your info on CAT 150 Star..:D

subway73
16-11-2007, 09:09 AM
Dear Fellow BDSM BRos,

early this year i met this lady (mature PRC Lady) rated her lookd 7/10 CFM with BABA boops and curvy. She had a 4 Saloon next to 4d store in GL where she had fulfilled many bros fantasy, incudes mine for BDSM. PH. so on. VEry accomodating and willing to try new stuff. She had an overhead bar where she converted it into a play swing, can you imagine the variations possible

Sadly she left, however 6 months later she is back but looking for a kinky shop, with IR rent has sky rocketed and she may go back a month later, if not a work permit.

She goes in calls hotels now, or current stationed at VV a feitsh Massage place.

She wants to venture deeper into the BDSM zone as dom. Needs willing volunteer. Price is a steal but you will have to get her a place at this pt of time. SM Toys will be supplied by you, will she has stockings and other stuff.

She has line that she wants me to put openly so do not zap me as i am just doing as instructed. Vivian = ()!^^(#^

Alternatively if bros here appreciates this... please do not hold back to up my pts...

Schrodinger
16-11-2007, 01:02 PM
..or current stationed at VV a feitsh Massage place...

Bro,

Is she the same one mentioned by Bro Teraterm above - Lina?

Thanks for sharing btw.

subway73
18-11-2007, 10:08 AM
Bro,

Is she the same one mentioned by Bro Teraterm above - Lina?

Thanks for sharing btw.

Bro, diff ger not lina.

this one is mature i think 30. She use to run a hair saloon at GL near 4 D shop. Ieft her coded number in the last thread very easy to figure out her hp.

cheers

subway73
20-11-2007, 12:28 PM
2 bro have tried her,

I think she her idea of BDSM has improve leaps thanks to the training bros have given her.... one bro even give her garters and stockings... which now can be reused.

You will need to bring your own Toys and Poison.

Call Vivian PRC mistress for out calls before she goes off on the 27th..

McWoof0
20-11-2007, 02:10 PM
bro, mistress vivian figure good?

Schrodinger
20-11-2007, 05:17 PM
2 bro have tried her
.... one bro even give her garters and stockings...

That would be yours truly.... Also gave her two BDSM vids for her to watch and learn.

I must say she did not disappoint - definitely not a total newbie when I met her. Perhaps my expectations were managed as experience has taught me not to get too excited. She genuinely enjoys it so that's half the battle won already. Took to my toys like a fish to water.

Fmcane
21-11-2007, 12:11 AM
Took to my toys like a fish to water.

bro Schrodinger, good one, very informative :p .
Me will give her a miss as i'm still stick to my "SKY" (u guy know who rite :D )

Thru casual tcss with WLs, notice there are many bigger players (bros) out there. Hope more will join in and discuss in this tread.

Fmcane
21-11-2007, 12:13 AM
Took to my toys like a fish to water.

bro Schrodinger, good one, very informative :p .
Me will give her a miss as i'm still stick to my "SKY" (u guy know who rite :D )

Thru casual tcss with WLs, notice there are many bigger players (bros) out there. Hope more will join in and discuss in this tread.

subway73
21-11-2007, 09:22 AM
Special thanks to Bro Schrodiger.

Now I will have chance to fulfill my fetish for garters and BLACK STOCKINGS (Staple of the day) he he he... and training from the VIds.. i will also teach her (Vivian) a trick or 2 of my own.

BRO FMCANE,

I have tried STAR, MAY and FIONA. my Fav would be Star for looks and ability to Tease. MAy on the otherhand is an old bird at it. Felt as if I was disciplined by my mother... EEEks!!! (Fiona was just too friendly). I loved May's secret weapon...... called the "earthquake up your crack!!!" Bro Schrodiger would like that too!!!

Suger will be my next target. Care to comment on her skill?

Bounder
21-11-2007, 09:12 PM
Saw Vivian today.. She brought with her black stockings, panties and sexy dress. She's quite creative and took my trainer laces to tie me up and used my belt to beat me. If any bros interested in golden shower she does that too.. Better get in quick before she goes on 27th..

Fmcane
21-11-2007, 11:35 PM
Felt as if I was disciplined by my mother... EEEks!!!
Suger will be my next target. Care to comment on her skill?

That's funny, i nearly laugh out my heart:D .

Can't comment on Suger as i have yet to try her. Must be royal to my Sky mah. That's the correct slave attitude rite? :p

Gustav Gestapo
22-11-2007, 02:27 PM
Yes, May reminded me on one of my Schoolteachers...ouch!

jocky14
23-11-2007, 10:54 PM
Let me take a little focus away from the local scene to japan

Firstly I like to thank all the brudders here for the information on BSDM.

Finally, I have a chance to pay La Siora a visit.

I was fortunate to stay in the shinjuku area, where La Siora is located. With the help of the La Siora's manager, I took a cab to the place from my hotel, which cost me
less than 10USD.

The La Siora's manager is very polite, and the whole place is very professionally managed. Upon arrival, I was given an album with pictures of the mistresses. All the mistresses are very elegant and weigh from 7-9 in my looks scale.

I was told Mistress Mao, Akihno and Crea were available, and I personally get to interview Mao and Crea, both of whom are absolute beauties.

Actually, it was more like they interviewed me, profiling my SM preferences based on a set of 20-30 questions and checklist.

In the end, I went with Mao, who look like a Korean actress and was tall and fair.

I would not elaborate on the details of the session except to say that it's 70 mins long, and involved a mixture of bondage, face sitting and foot worship.

At the end of the session, I paid 200USD for the mistress, 40USD for the studio, and I find it's every cent well spent (U also need to pay a 1-time membership fees of 30 USD).
How often do you get a stunning mistress, a near 9 in looks and body, dressed in dominatrix gear to dominate you?

The only down-side is some of the mistresses speak little english.

The experience is excellent for someone who is a sucker for looks and love a mixture of gentlessness, sensualness thown into a highly professional SM session.

Customer service is top-notch from administration, managers to mistresses.

The experience alone let me look forward to going back Japan.

Last but not least, I find Japan is really in an advanced stage for BSDM. There is even a weekly BSDM magazine (a gift from La Siora) that previews the latest and hottest in the industry, with tons of mistresses' pictures and contacts... heaven...

jocky14
23-11-2007, 11:16 PM
Dear Fellow BDSM BRos,

She has line that she wants me to put openly so do not zap me as i am just doing as instructed. Vivian = ()!^^(#^

Alternatively if bros here appreciates this... please do not hold back to up my pts...

brudder, where is VV ?

submarine
24-11-2007, 12:27 PM
Last but not least, I find Japan is really in an advanced stage for BSDM. There is even a weekly BSDM magazine (a gift from La Siora) that previews the latest and hottest in the industry, with tons of mistresses' pictures and contacts... heaven...


I totally second that. Im also planning a trip to La Siora early next year. I will only be going to Japan for that, no other reason whatsoever. Besides La Siora, im also targetting club-mars but problem is i do not speak japanese at all, so i would definitely be stopped. Also looking forward to getting some msvillage.jp dvds from tokyo.

How many days did u spend in japan? Im planning a 5 day trip, with 3 days in the dungeon haha

kenken99
26-11-2007, 07:49 PM
I totally second that. Im also planning a trip to La Siora early next year. I will only be going to Japan for that, no other reason whatsoever. Besides La Siora, im also targetting club-mars but problem is i do not speak japanese at all, so i would definitely be stopped. Also looking forward to getting some msvillage.jp dvds from tokyo.

How many days did u spend in japan? Im planning a 5 day trip, with 3 days in the dungeon haha

I am interedted and have a same plan too. :)

DonCJ
30-11-2007, 01:46 PM
All during 2008, and starting tomorrow December 1, Chateau Jade is celebrating its tenth anniversary in operation.

Chateau Jade has been in operation longer than every other dungeon in South East Asia combined.

As a Thank You to our many patrons worldwide we are offering special rates for our sessions.

To summarize, subs can have their choice of either 25% more session time for the normal rate, or, the normal session time for a rate discounted 10 to 12.5%

Specifically for two Domme sessions (or 1 Domme/1 switch)

6 hours 9000 baht or 8 hours 10,000 baht
12 hours 14,000 baht or 15 hours 16,000 baht
24 hours 24,000 baht or 30 hours 27,000 baht

As always all meals and drinks are on the House. There are no hidden or extra charges and tipping is neither mansatory nor solicited, ever.

We have added swiych Jasmine to our staff. As a switch Jasmine can play Top or bottom. As soon as possible we will be adding pics of Jasmine to our main website www.chateaujade.com and also creating a new website specifically for Jasmine.

Book early, we expect to be busy all year long.

Mistress Tahn
Mistress Oh
Mistress April
Mistress Emerald
switch Jasmine

Chateau Jade, Bangkok
[email protected]

Nara
07-12-2007, 02:14 PM
Dear All,

For those who appreciate some virtual instant content while waiting for the teasing mistresses and their ^&** schedules like i do;

www.roselip-fetish.tv

there is a sister site, miracle tv link for the other fetish type.

DonCJ
07-12-2007, 10:22 PM
That URL goes only to an Apache server test page. In other words the site is so far without even an Under Construction splash page.

Waste of time

ydgduo
14-12-2007, 04:33 PM
congrats for anniversary.
thanks for introducing sm in south east asia.
too bad, job hopping rate in asia is pretty high, so a lot of the people you spend time and money to train, ran away.
therefore, i can understand your reluctant to choose younger and more beautiful gals to train. the younger and beautiful they are, the faster they ran away. from what i saw in japan, job hopping rate is pretty high in japan too, but there are so many sm house, while there is so little in south east asia.

Nara
16-12-2007, 12:13 AM
i guess i deserve to be punished.

www.roselip-fetish.com

DonCJ
19-12-2007, 03:59 PM
I really could care less about what goes on in Japan. The vast majority of Japanese SM clubs are closed to all non Japanese and the few that are not, are priced so much higher than we are that they are immaterial.

Contrary to what you say, we have not had much of a churning in staff, compared to other Houses here.

From c.1991 till late 2006 our core team of Mistress Wednesday, Mistress Yuey, Mistress Tahn remained quite fixed.

Mistress Yuey did not "run away". She went off on her own.

Mistress Wednesday did not "run away", she burned out. Both of them were here for nine years.

Mistress Tahn has been here for nine years and is still here.

Mistress Oh was here for almost four years and is now back and doing very well.

Mistress April will have been here three years as of a few months from now.

If you don't think these Mistresses are beautiful, get an eye exam. And none of them is yet 30.

Of course if the Scene in South east asia had to depend on you, ydgduo, it would not exist at all, would it? Because you are a perpetual looker at websites who never sessions anyway. Window-shopper is your own description of yourself. Well, go window shop somewhere else. Some people have it and some people don't.

ydgduo
20-12-2007, 02:41 PM
well, one sm house in tokyo is open to foreigner.

which is nice, i tried it several times. very good.

i only said window shopper because i dun do ugly gals. yeah 3 or your 4 gals are really not beautiful. honest opinion. no offense intented, just not my type.

the japanese gals in la siora are so nice. i miss them already.

DonCJ
20-12-2007, 03:27 PM
I don't believe you have ever set foot in Tokyo, because you are such an obvious lying wanker.

As for our "ugly Dommes, you are entitled to your opinion. But, you are in now way competent to judge their skills as Dommes since you have never been here by your own admission, and if you were anything but a wanker, you would know that skill, born or experience, which takes time to acquire, is far more important than looks or youth. And that is the difference between a Dominatrix and any run of the mill flatback whore.

Ten years of succesful operation, says you are wrong and I am right.

3000+ satisfied subs, 75% repeat rate, and an international following from 260+ nations, all add up to you are wrong and I am right.

So all in all, fuck you. No offense intended of course. You set out to insult us and damage our business, so I shit on your pointy little head.

ydgduo
21-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Back to main topic of this thread?

With so many HC in Singapore? Any HC gals can do simple fetish/sm without toys recently?

There are so many HC. There must be some. Anyone can update this?

any from Dragon? they got nice looking gals.

But beautiful HC gals only.....

DonCJ
21-12-2007, 05:11 PM
So the wanker's idea is to get a prostitute to pretend to be a Mistress?

Pretty lame, wanker, and it just does not work.

It takes training, experience, wardrobe, and equipment.

None of which you will find in a HC.

DonCJ
21-12-2007, 05:18 PM
You can't get professional Domination from a prostitute and that is what HC girls are.

It takes training, experience, wardrobe, equipment, and special furniture.

All over the Pacific Rim, escort services claim to do fetish/BDSM and invariably they are lying.

What you are proposing is a flimsy sham.

Whores are not Dommes, and real Dommes are not whores.

DonCJ
21-12-2007, 09:11 PM
HC girls = prostitutes.

Prostitutes do not equal professional Dommes.

Professional Domination requires training, experience, wardrobe, equipment, and special furniture, none of which you will find in a HC.

The Pacific Rim is full of escort services that claim to offer BDSM but are lying through their teeth. Many of you know this because you have been victimised in this fashion.

Professional Dominatrixes are not prostitutes.

ydgduo
22-12-2007, 08:35 PM
name of this thread is sex rules-health Centre & KTV lounge Tangos-Fetish/Role Play/BDSM in Health centre. You are in the wrong place. You can open a thread for SM house yourself separately.

DonCJ
23-12-2007, 09:36 AM
I do not care what ydgduo says. This thread is about BDSM, and professional Domination, and those are things that do not and cannot happen in HCs. Now, if ydgduo is right, then all posts that do not concern HCs should be deleted including his. That would leave this thread empty. Because there ARE no posts about BDSM or Female Domination in health centers.

BDSM/FD can take place in a hotel room (as various visiting Dommes do when they are in Sg) or, much better, in a dedicated Dungeon, of which none exist in Sg or anywhere else in South East Asia except Thailand. As this game is wardrobe and equipment intensive, it is hard to make it a roadshow with much success. Hotel rooms afford precious little privacy, security, or sound abatement.

Many of you know well that some of the escort services at Orchard Towers claim to offer BDSM/Domination/submission but, while they are happy to take premium money - they never deliver. They cannot. They are clueless. This is equally true of the so called fetish bars in Bangkok, and Pattaya, and equally true of some of the dungeons as well. The three legitimate Dungeons in Thailand are Midori's, Christy's, and the original one where both of those Ladies started, Chateau Jade. I happen to have started Chateau Jade and I trained Midori and Christy - though the latter had a different name (Chastity) at that time. That was ten long years ago.

Chateau Jade is now owned and operated by the Dommes themselves and by Yupha the hostess and chef. The House specializes in longer sessions, 6 hours to two weeks, so if you want a few hours only, go see Midori or Christy.

ydgduo, contrary to his boasting, is a guy who does not Scene. He looks at pictures on the Internet. He fantasizes about going to Tokyo and playing at one of the few SM clubs there that is open to non-Japanese at any price. Don't listen to his foolishness. I don't really care if you come session here or not. Quite a few people from Sg do, but, few that participate in this forum. However, reality is reality and pretense and mendacity are not, and ydgduo is a posturing poseur.

DonCJ
23-12-2007, 11:10 AM
ydgduo

Stop being disingenuous.

This thread is 29 pages long, you did not found it and you do not own it. Go back and read it from the start. Precious little has been said about fetish/BDSM role play in health centers, probaby because there isn't any. So get off it. You just want a change of subject. The ACTUAL subject of the thread is professional Female Domination. Do not obfuscate by claiming that it is not.

Otherwise, what were all the posts about Mistress Christy and Mistress Aria?

Or other professional Mistresses, or pretenders to be, who visit Sg? What were all those posts from you about La Siora in Tokyo where I say you have never been? Because clearly you are clueless about the Scene anywhere.

If we go by your strict and lawyerly interpretation of the thread title, then no post is possible, because the Scene has nothing whatsoever to do with SEX as such. A sub does not get to have sex with a Mistress. Nowhere in the legitimate Scene anywhere in the world does that happen. A pro Domme who lets a slave penetrate her or who performs a blowjob on a sub would be ostracized as a whore. So that never happens, not in US, not in Japan, not in UK, not in Europe, not in Australia.

So it follows that in this sense, ANY discussion of professional Domination has no place on a furum that is solely concerned with "commercial sex"

That is the inescapable logic of your fatuous position.

ydgduo
23-12-2007, 11:14 PM
actually this thread is pretty quiet for a long time. I think most posts are from Doncj recently.

As for my experience in La Siora, anyone want some info, can ask me here. As for the sessions details, i prefer to keep it between her and me. Kudos for those who gave their session details. But they are minority. Pretty private details.

the trade is evolving even in japan, la siora is still like an traditional sm house. but from magazine and internet, i can see it is going towards, more erotic, sex rather than sm. combination of sm and sex, there is a market for it, and health centre can provide this mix.

i think the trend is away from traditional sm to this new type of sm/sex mix.

jocky14
24-12-2007, 01:40 AM
thanks bro ydgduo for your contribution to this sm thread.

Whatever the real definition of SM to me is not important, as long as we enjoy it... call it whatever you like, I don't care

I personally have tried both Thailand and Japan's Lia Siora

I wouldn't think even think twice to tell you Lia Siora is the ONE I lusted MUCH more.

I may have to pay a little more for a shorter time.
Like One mistress in Japan 240 USD for 70 Min compared to 2 mistresses 200 USD for 3 hours, I still go for the Japan option simply because the gals there are of model quality.

There is a good number here among Singapore Asians who appreciate beauty in mistresses as much as or if not more than their skills. I guess in this aspect, I am much similar to bro Ydgduo

Schrodinger
24-12-2007, 03:24 PM
...I personally have tried both Thailand and Japan's Lia Siora

I wouldn't think even think twice to tell you Lia Siora is the ONE I lusted MUCH more....

...There is a good number here among Singapore Asians who appreciate beauty in mistresses as much as or if not more than their skills....

You have at least gone one better than me, in that you actually gave CJ a chance and went over to sample them.

If I have to go overseas, I at least have to lust after the beauty of the Mistresses. The ladies of La Siora have always managed to tempt me into making that trip - many times over - but the ladies at CJ have not. Even though they are much nearer and cheaper. This is to the extent that I would specifically engineer a trip to Tokyo to visit La Siora, but I have given CJ a miss even though I happen to be in Bangkok for business, with time to kill.

I cannot fairly compare the skills of the ladies between the two establishments, since I have not been to CJ. But I can say for certain that I have never been disappointed with La Siora.

DonCJ
24-12-2007, 04:50 PM
jock14 said he had been to Thailand, he said nothing about being to CJ. He talked about a 2 Domme session for $200 for two hours.

We do not offer 2 hour sessions at any price. The minimum session at CJ for the last 5-6 years has been 6 hours 2 Dommes, 10,000 Thai baht presently knocked down to 9000 baht in celebration of our Decennial.

That is roughly $300 US.

So jocky14 may have been to Midori's or Christy's, or he may have done worse, but he has not been to CJ. Not for a 2 hr session. Impossible.

ydgduo still does not know the difference between a Mistress and a whore, that is sad. He does not know the difference between SM and prostitution, that is a pity. There IS a difference. There remains a difference. There will always be this difference, or the Scene will no longer be the Scene. And that would be a great loss.

There are quite a few Singaporeans and Malaysians who disagree with you guys, who come here (to CJ) and have a great time with Mistress Oh and Mistress Tahn and Mistress April and slave jasmine. Unlike ydgduo, they do not need an eye exam.

A lot of Sg based expats too. Even more from HK. And a number from Tokyo, the Phillipines, Indonesia and Malaysia. A flood of people from all over the world in fact, who do not share your point of view.

And that includes some Japanese subs as well.

jocky14
24-12-2007, 05:36 PM
You have at least gone one better than me, in that you actually gave CJ a chance and went over to sample them.
I

To be exact, the one I went in Thailand is not CJ. It is the Mistress Midori's one. Needless to say, their skills and experienced is highly commendable.

However, their looks department falls a little short of our (Asians) definition of beauty, which is why I have not paid a 2nd visit. Once for the experience and was worth every penny, but the little bro says "no need a 2nd try"...

I have been to Sydney and Melbourne, some of the mistresses are elegant. I will also give them a try if I am there again.

Schrodinger
24-12-2007, 07:06 PM
To be exact, the one I went in Thailand is not CJ. It is the Mistress Midori's one....

...However, their looks department falls a little short of our (Asians) definition of beauty, which is why I have not paid a 2nd visit...

I have been to Sydney and Melbourne, some of the mistresses are elegant. I will also give them a try if I am there again.

Ah, I misunderstood then. My apologies.

I can understand what you mean by 'Asian definition' of beauty. It really is down to personal preferences and BDSM should really embody the spirit of allowing for it, given its less than mainstream activities.

Sydney - I'm guessing you went to Salon Kitty's? I've been there several times and enjoyed each visit. To be fair, I also do not find most of the dommes there to my taste. I was lucky that because they have so many on staff, I was able to find a couple that had the 'lust factor'. One of them has since gone independent and I have even served her when she travelled to Singapore. (this is a different one from the recent one from alt.com)

Melbourne - been to one that I think is now defunct. I had a good time - it's just that Melbourne trips are always family trips and it's difficult to get lone time.

If you're going to London anytime, I can give you some recommendations.

DonCJ
24-12-2007, 08:13 PM
Frankly, our East Asian clientele make up less than 10% of our following and Sg less than 1%. We see more HK than Sg. We see more South Asians and Mideastern people than either.

Well, to each his own. De gustibus and all that. (The start of an old Latin expression that roughly translates as "There's no accounting for taste."

submarine
26-12-2007, 10:30 AM
To be exact..........I have been to Sydney and Melbourne, some of the mistresses are elegant. I will also give them a try if I am there again.

hi bro Jocky14, i have sent stuff to u via yousendit. Pls check yr mail for the links. Rgds

submarine
26-12-2007, 10:53 AM
IMHO (after seeing the flurry of exchanges), as what Don concluded, to each his own....that's very true

Personally, I have not gone to CJ, but looking at the website and comparing the girls there to the ones from La Siora, the latter does win hands-down in terms of the looks department. However, many pics of Japanese dommes have been 'doctored' by photoshop etc to improve the pic quality. Many pics are also taken by a professional photographer with lightings on-set. Thus, they appear to be model-quality.

On the other hand, the pics from CJ and many other Asian websites are the real deal and genuine, so we wont be left disappointed when we finally turn up at the dungeon doors. In terms of skill, Im sure the longstanding houses with an established clientele and reputation would stand the test of time, as what CJ and La Siora both possess. Prices-wise, they are quite different, but I somehow get the impression that many Japanese dominatrixes are not real lifestyle dommes, but they are only doing it for the money.

YG mentioned about the trend moving towards chijo-clubs, the ones whereby the women are generally more aggressive. I wont call them real SM clubs, but I am very sure there is a very very big market for this. If a man cannot get turned on by leather and latex, I'm sure he would be after seeing a lady wearing a sexy lace corset and lingerie underneath a hot business suit. There is a kink in everyone of us, and the general idea of a dim-witted and blur lady suddenly turning dominant is indeed a fantasy for many men who are not into the pure SM business.

Real lifestyle dommes DO NOT dress for their subs, they dress as they please. On the contrary, those who work in a femdom establishment for a living are the ones who dress up to fulfill their clients fantasy.

DonCJ
26-12-2007, 11:37 AM
Well said. In fact I would like to shoot the perpetrator of many of the pics on the CJ and related subordinate websites, particularly those of Mistress Oh as they do not do her justice at all. These will soon be replaced as we have purchased a digital high definition video camera of high quality (Canon HV-20) and will be adding and replacing still images as well as adding video clips for first time.

Some of the photos of Mistress Tahn and Mistress April which were taken at our previous location by a better photographer are not too bad, but that was prior to the return of Mistress Oh.

Subs who do visit CJ consistently comment that they are very gratified with the actual appearance of the Mistresses compared to the photos on the web and suggest the photographer be tortured at length.

Breaking news: Mistress Wednesday is returning to CJ after a hiatus of eight months. She has nine years experience and like Oh, a great command of English. (An asset harder to come by in Thailand than in Sg.)

ydgduo
26-12-2007, 08:26 PM
Many pics are also taken by a professional photographer with lightings on-set. Thus, they appear to be model-quality.

Prices-wise, they are quite different.

but I somehow get the impression that many Japanese dominatrixes are not real lifestyle dommes, but they are only doing it for the money.

YG mentioned about the trend moving towards chijo-clubs, the ones whereby the women are generally more aggressive. I wont call them real SM clubs, but he would be after seeing a lady wearing a sexy lace corset and lingerie underneath a hot business suit.


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>>>In my opinion, no photographer in this world can make thai doms look as good as La Siora doms.

>>>Do you know La Siora is 10 mins walk from Shinjuku station. Do you know the rent of that area. Ok, La Siora is in a old office building, but the cost is much higher than bangkok. I am sure of that. Cost of living in Tokyo is very high compare to thailand, doms need to eat too. I do not think japanese doms can survive with thai doms pay.

>>> I really thought that all doms do it for money, you got me there:eek:. your avatar are from mistress ming taiwan, i am sure she do it for money only. And money alone.

>>> I do not know what is chijo clubs, but i can see a trend on Japanese AV, that some men do not want the pain. Want a mix of sm and sex. Soft erotic bdsm. I think this will be a big market in future. Something that can be sold in singapore and thailand. There is a market. You can have two company, one for traditional sm and other for the new soft erotic sm. Why, to make money of course.

ydgduo
26-12-2007, 08:55 PM
I do not need an eye examination. They are not my type. I like real tall and slim doms. TALL as of 1.7m and above. decent face, nice nose, and big boobs is a plus.

and HV20 is a camcorder, it is useless in taking picture. But video is good, for indoor, you really need to put a HUGE video light on it. Oh, software to extract video from HV20 is a nightmare.

you want some nice photos, you got to get a canon 5D and 85mm f1.2 with lots of light.

ydgduo
26-12-2007, 09:22 PM
thanks bro ydgduo for your contribution to this sm thread.

I personally have tried both Thailand and Japan's Lia Siora

I wouldn't think even think twice to tell you Lia Siora is the ONE I lusted MUCH more.

I may have to pay a little more for a shorter time.
Like One mistress in Japan 240 USD for 70 Min compared to 2 mistresses 200 USD for 3 hours, I still go for the Japan option simply because the gals there are of model quality.

There is a good number here among Singapore Asians who appreciate beauty in mistresses as much as or if not more than their skills. I guess in this aspect, I am much similar to bro Ydgduo

>>>
hello jocky14
Looks are not everything in sm, but a big part. actually cj gals are better than most doms on the net. sometime on the web, you see some so call doms, you said to yourself, what? she need to pay $ to me to serve her. this is a joke. some doms are average looking, but ask big bucks. I think UK doms really overcharge compare to rest of the world.

Indeed La Siora are much better. Better choice, you can try different gals and they have different skill levels.

Turn over rate is pretty high, there are always new gals coming and old gals leaving. Thailand sm house, do not change too much. also, la siora have a uk blogs, which update info and pics every week, thai sm house change their website like once a decade.

Do you know that if you stay in Hotel in Shinjuku, (members) you can call them to come to your room, i think i want to do this one day. The next time i am there.

My next project is NEW YORK, i want to try the fetish fortress, nutcracker suite, pandoras box and rapture.

DonCJ
26-12-2007, 10:29 PM
Yes HV20 is a camcorder, recording video on miniDV tape. But it also records stills at very high resolution and stores them on a SD card. These are transferred to PC using USB 2.0 while digital video is transferred via Firewire, which is much faster. So, I see you know even less about digital videography and photography than you do about BDSM and the Scene. Amazing.

A high definition camcorder like this is not the equal of a dedicated high end digital still camera, but it is far better than a point-and-shoot. Most of the better pics on the CJ site and the mistress sites were taken with a high end EOS Canon digital SLR. Most of the really crappy ones were taken with Canon point and shoots. The big differences have to do with the lens quality and the flash handling. In the case of the HV20 we will not be using flash, but studio lighting for the video, three sources to eliminate shadows.

I know Japan well, I have a Japanese ex wife and spent time there. The Japanese Scene is anomalous. I used to have a dozen or so Japanese SM videotapes and way back when I used these to teach our Dommes what NOT to do.

One of our early subs was a gaijin employed as a reporter for the Kyodo new service. He was based in Tokyo and would come visit us when in Bangkok. His live-in girlfriend was a Japanese professional Domme. She worked in a SM studio across the street from where they lived. She had a closet full of fetishwear. You would think this chap had it made, right? Wrong. She would spend time getting made up, and dressed in leather or rubber or pvc from head to toe. And would walk over to the club and spend her evening torturing subs. And then home to the boyfriend, off with the fetishwear, bath, and into a yukata and fuzzy slippers and wanting straight sex all night. This just drove him crazy. No kink at all, from her. Not even a little.

Most Japanese pro Dommes are in fact, former subs/slaves and in fact, most still prefer that role in the personal and private lives. That is the conventional wisdom anyway and that is borne out and confirmed by my conversations with Japanese professional Mistresses who have visited us at Chateau Jade. How many Japanese pro Dommes do you know personally, ydgduo?

Like, none?

The phenomenon you are talking about is the spread of the "mistress bars" in Japan. These are not SM clubs or dungeons but simply, mizu-shobai places, with the gimmick, nothing more than that, of the hostresses being dressed in fetishwear instead of in Playboy bunny outfits. These ersatz "mistresses" are simply floating-worls bar girls and prostitutes. Their job is B-drinking, not SM. the SM is the come-on. Alcohol and the real Scene do not mix. Contrary to what you say, real submissives want real Dominants and real masochists want real pain and do not kid yourself otherwise. That is just as true in Japan as it is everywhere else.

In Japan the kinky sex business is the fuzuku (sometimes, pronounced huzuku) while the bar business is the mizu-shobai. And behind them both the yakuza.

The Scene in Japan is 75% male Dom, female sub, the femdom side is 25% at best. You seem to be using AV and magazines for your source material. For every femdom CD or magazine that comes out of Japan there are ten devoted to shibari rope bondage of Japanese women. In Tokyo you could go to the "Abnormal Museum" and see that the production of pornographic SM material goes back to woodblock prints and tryptichs. I remember some depisctions of hapless female slaves who were blinded, their eyes gouged out, blood streaming down their cheeks, while they were still in bondage. Their fate was to be massesuses. Women in the massage houses were blind, and if not conveniently so they were rendered so forthwith.

Historically, everything doing with animal skinning, tanning, and the working of leather was the sole province of the eta (now known as the burakumin). The mainstream Japanese considered slaughtering animals against Buddhism. The eta were and are outcasts, untouchables, shunned and sneered at. Mostly they were descended from Korean and Chinese who were kidnapped and brought to Japan long ago to "transfer technology". Nowadays the burakumin are a major source for yakuza recruits as most other routes of advancement are still closed to them.

The eta were also the official torturers and executioners for Japan's civil and military authorities.

You want me to connect the dots? The fuzuku has its origins in the eta. The yakuza has a centuried relationship with the eta. The yakuza protects the fuzuku for a price.

I still am not convinced you, ydgduo, have ever been anywhere near La Siora. which by the way I bet is close to Shinjuku-san-chome, to be somewhat more specific than "Shinjuku station". Shinjuku-3-chome.

For months you pestered me in this forum to update website and you said you have been watching it for 8 years. Gee. Was that because the Dommes were so ugly, as you say now? Why did you bother?

You didn't start this "Thai girls are ugly" stuff till I knocked you for not following through and visiting, instead of staring at your PC monitor. Your defense was that you could not afford our rates, or airfare to Bangkok.

But we are supposed to believe that you CAN afford airfare to Tokyo and La Siora's much higher prices, right?

Bull. Stop lying. It's tiresome.

You like Japanese girls netter, fine. Maybe you like short legs, long waists and rabbit teeth too? Because that's what Japanese girls are famous for.

Japanese men mostly like to dominate female slaves. Why? Because they are smothered by their mothers, then henpecked by their wives. Japan is a matriarchy; at home the wife rules the roost. SM is an outlet where for once in his life he can tell the woman what to do. You have never heard a virago till you have heard a Japanese wife telling off an errant husband. Woof!

Well, twnety years ago I said sayonara to my Japanese wife and moved to Bangkok and I have no regrets at all. And I have been with the same Thai wife all these years.

Your obsession with the Japanese Dommes bemuses me. You are welcome to your delusions, fella, but don't try to force the rest of us to share them.

In HK there's a very rich and powerful businessman, his name is a household word. But as rich as he is, he and his sons are social pariahs. Why? Because he made his early money selling arms to the Japanese army to use against his own people, the Chinese. In HK they have a long memory. What happened to Singapore's memory? I wonder.

DonCJ
27-12-2007, 10:31 AM
To be specific about the still image capabilities of the Canon HV-20, its has 3.1 megapixels and up to 2048x1536 pixel image resolution in still mode. The miniSD card holds more than 1500 images.

camcorderinfo.com named it Camcorder of the Year and had particular praise for its still image capabilities.

Given that the screen resolution of a PC is 640 x 480 full screen and most website images are maybe 160 x 120 pixels, I think the imaging capabilities of the HV-20 are more than enough. As mentioned, my experience is that a digital SLR can turn in brilliant images, but point and shoot digital cameras cannot due to crap lenses and crap flash handling.

When we were using a professional, we were taking his prints and scanning them, then typically having to reduce image size and/or resolution to fit on web page. Results were less than optimum.

Digital is the way to go, eliminating the scanner.

DonCJ
27-12-2007, 11:12 AM
Sorry for the video rant but ydgduo is so ignorant I must educate him.

I use Adobe Premiere Pro 8 CS3 to capture high definition video via Firewire from the HV-20 to hard disk. Th is professional nonlinear editor. Software is not the issue. Hardware is. Rendering high definition video (1080i = 1920x1080 pixels/frame, up to 30 frames a second, requires a lot of CPU power and a lot of fast reliable storage. A RAID0 of 7200 rpm, 200 Mb SCSI drives and 2 GB RAM on a fast PC, preferably dual or quad CPU, is advisable. Maybe you think that is an exotic system? Not so. That is only slightly above the ordinary entry level desktop machine these days. And maybe a few hundred $$ more money. Far from your nightmare scenario.

Video light? The camera is tripod mounted and the scene is lit by three studio lights also on tripods, 1000W each and equipped with dimmers. We are not shooting baby pictures. The same lighting is overkill for stills, but what the hell.

I shoot high-def video and then downconvert to distribute because the results are superior to shooting in standard definition. Obviously we have constraints on the web, but the videos will also be available on DVD in full quality including HDTV if people have the appropriate output devices.

I also shoot in 24p cinematic mode. Something the HV-10 offers and few consumer models have.

Next time do your homework, ydgduo, before you run your mouth about things you do not understand.

DonCJ
27-12-2007, 12:15 PM
Back to BDSM.

The professional/lifestyler thing is a phony distinction trumped up in USA and mostly on Internet there. Some sois-dissant lifestylers look down on professional Dommes as crypto-prostitutes, while many pro DOmmes regard lifestylers askance as dowdy suburban poseurs. You will not find a lot of agreement about what it takes to BE a lifestyler. Does anyone really think that a couple in a long term relationship have to live their D/s or BDSM lifestyle all the time? That is ridiculous.

Likewise the meaning of "professional" is as fuzzy in the Scene as it is in prostitution. Some pro Dommes operate out of their apartments or homes or hotel rooms. Some have their dungeon built into what was once their garage. Some have little equipment. little wardrobe and little experience. In short all pro Dommes are NOT created equal.

The "doing it only for the money" bit is also bogus. To do pro femdom justice requires equipment, wardrobe, training and experience. That means a significant front end investment. Some one out to make a fast buck will balk at that.

I can assure you that if the Domme is going through the motions just for the fee, the sub WILL know it and the session will fail. For the Domme to enjoy the Scene, enjoy what she is doing, is a sine qua non for success. Dommes who do not enjoy their "work" will not be popular and will not last long. You can take that to the bank.

ydgduo's emphasis on the necessity for a Domme being a raving beauty is ill considered and reflects the fact that he has little or no real Scene experience. Looks are secondary, even tertiary considerations. Sill and experience matter and so does the enjoyment of the Domme.

Compare the situation to sex with a prostitute. The best prostitutes may not actually enjoy the sex with a john, but they know how to make him THINK they do. They are accomplished actresses. As well as skilled bedpartners.

Conversely a whore who is obviously just a sack of cold jello and who keeps checking the time and can't wait to be elsewhere, is a bad lay. You might as well have saved your money and jerked off.

Well, I know of know pro Dommes who are good actresses. You really can tell if they are having a good time, or not. And it really does make or break the experience for you. If a Domme is skilled and enjoys what she does, she will be worth every penny of her fee.

And that is the truth of the matter.

At CJ we enjoy a large worldwide following and a 75% repeat rate because our Dommes DO enjoy what they do and our subs have a great time. I guess we will have to struggle on without ydgduo's patronage.

ydgduo
27-12-2007, 04:49 PM
Sorry for the video rant but ydgduo is so ignorant I must educate him.

I use Adobe Premiere Pro 8 CS3 to capture high definition video via Firewire from the HV-20 to hard disk. This professional nonlinear editor.

>>>Premiere Pro CS3 is the correct name, not premiere pro 8 cs3. the previous verison is premiere pro 2. So, there is no such thing call permiere pro 8.

Sorry , but pp cs3 cost more than HV20, that is not a option for me.
So software is a problem for me.

Wait dun tell me that you are using pirate version? Putting such information on the internet can gave you legal problem. Becareful.

I will be sad if you get a BIG fine from thai gov.

and back to BDSM

I am sure being a raving beauty is a GREAT HELP in getting business for doms. Since one have to spend a lot of money on doms, one will choose the beautiful one. The hobby is not cheap.

DonCJ
27-12-2007, 10:58 PM
I see, you can't afford software any more than you can afford pro Dommes.

And you know nothing about software in Thailand. The shop where I buy my software pays off the police, so, I have never heard of any individual user being fined. Maybe in Sg not in Thailand.

Premiere Pro CS3 came on a DVD and cost me $8 US (250 baht.) So you may have a nightmare, I don't.

submarine
28-12-2007, 12:59 AM
I'm sure everyone here has his/her own tastes in what a domme should be in terms of lifestyle/behaviour or looks. Personally, I dont wish to share mine here cos it might trigger another debate but well, perhaps we could share reviews of all our experiences at CJ / La Siora / etc in an objective manner.

Scene in SG is really pathetic. I cannot even find a decent shop that sells fetish gear and wear in local sizes.

ydgduo
28-12-2007, 08:10 AM
I'm sure everyone here has his/her own tastes in what a domme should be in terms of lifestyle/behaviour or looks. Personally, I dont wish to share mine here cos it might trigger another debate but well, perhaps we could share reviews of all our experiences at CJ / La Siora / etc in an objective manner.

Scene in SG is really pathetic. I cannot even find a decent shop that sells fetish gear and wear in local sizes.

>> you like small round arse, tiny mistress in g-string and lingerie corset?

fetish wear, tokyo is a good place, Akihabara station, take exit Akihabara electric town, go straight towards main road. You will notice a shop on the right hand side, with lots of fetish clothes on display at level 3/4.
go in and go up, you will all sorts of fetish clothes, maid, doms, cosplay anything.
walk around there, i think turn left, you will find a big shop selling DVD AV and used panties from japanese gals. all sort of sm dvd, cost a bomb, can use for training purpose.

DonCJ
28-12-2007, 11:20 AM
As I said: long ago we used Japanese videos for training. We used them to show the new Mistresses how NOT to behave, because the acts depicted in those Japanese videos were often unsafe.

Kicks to the head

Drowning

Cutting out huge clumps of hair

Just absurd. It was not BDSM but simple brutality, lacking in artistry or subtlety.

I doubt that the women depicted were really Japanese Mistresses, more likely actresses or models. This is quite common.

OWK in the Czech republic is a similar example. They sell magazines and videos. But while the physical location and manor are as described, the fetish clad women are not Dommes but actresses. People who went there as subs reported back to us that the women who imprisoned them wore no fetish clothing but uniforms, there was zero erotic interaction, generally no English was spoken at all (mostly Czech, sometimes German) and punishment was by rote.

In short, you can NOT judge such places by videos.

Our videos however will be of the actual Mistresses and actual sessions (either with our slave girl jasmine or with subs who volunteer to be in such vids.) No actors/actresses/scripts. What you see is what you get.

And by the way Mistress Wednesday is back. So.

Mistress Tahn
Mistress Oh
Mistress Wednesday
Mistress April
slave jasmine

We have dropped Mistress Emerald. She was lacking in aptitude and enthusiasm.

ydgduo
29-12-2007, 03:20 PM
NO fetish or body worshiping in HC?
chio gals open minded to soft sm?
nothing in singapore?
i am sure some of you brother train some HC gals?
would be nice if you can code name.

sidekick
29-12-2007, 07:53 PM
ya ya,

me not a shifu likes some of you guys here, i just want to give some of those syts a good spanking :D..... any suggestions any one???

DonCJ
04-01-2008, 01:50 PM
I'm unfamiliar with what a shifu might be, but, I can tell you why professional submissives are so rare.

It's because all over the world, male Tops have no more trouble finding willing sweet young things to spank than do female Mistresses. Therefore they have no need to pay for it.

The inescapable conclusion is that a clueless wannabe male Top who can't get female supplicants on his own hook, is rather the last sort of dangerous incompetent that any pro sub in her right mind would want to be alone in a room with.

Schrodinger
22-01-2008, 10:16 PM
...Call Vivian PRC mistress for out calls before she goes off on the 27th..

Bro, I presume Vivian's back in China - any idea if she's coming back?

ydgduo
29-01-2008, 05:17 AM
I'm sure everyone here has his/her own tastes in what a domme should be in terms of lifestyle/behaviour or looks. Personally, I dont wish to share mine here cos it might trigger another debate but well, perhaps we could share reviews of all our experiences at CJ / La Siora / etc in an objective manner.

Scene in SG is really pathetic. I cannot even find a decent shop that sells fetish gear and wear in local sizes.

yo submarine, Is mistress ming skillful? She also part time escort, and on her escort site, she said no locals, only angmoh. Can you gave some info on mistress ming?

ydgduo
04-02-2008, 07:32 AM
i notice that amazon jp ship to outside country. so you can get sm magazine

This one EVE No. 27
lasiora's media cover girl tamaki (http://www.blog.co.uk/media/photo/cover_girl_tamaki/2271863) (new dom-not avail when i was there)

A popular bi monthly magazine. No. 25 have EMI. (she is tall and very skillful)

Amazon.co.jp: ˜a‘ - EVE / Amazon.co.jp: –{ (http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=sr_nr_i_3?ie=UTF8&rs=&keywords=EVE&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AEVE%2Ci%3Astripbooks)

if you live outside singapore, i guess it will be fine.
if you live in singapore, i guess some will be shot down by PAP

ship to your friend outside singapore and bring it in.

for cheap SM DVD, i suggest you try the USA site.
Jav Paradise - SM (http://www.javparadise.com/s-19-sm.aspx)

again, if you live in singapore, most will be shot down by AA guns.
ship to a more civilise country.

I also notice that aria is coming to singapore in Feb
Mistress Christy and Mistress Aria - Bangkok (http://www.mistresschristy-aria.com/news-from-the-mistress.html)

Have a HAPPY S&M lunar new year.

ydgduo
04-02-2008, 07:48 AM
I have being asked by people how to go to La Siora.
For everyone benefit

http://www.lasiora.com/englishmap/englishmap.jpg

Take a train to shinjuku station

you have to look for south exit of keio new line shinjuku station. walk out, and cross a bridge, go straight. (this maybe the hardest part, navigating inside shinjuku station-nightmare)

you will pass by star bucks, and then you will see crispy creme , turn right, you will go down and reach MAYNDS tower. If you go inside you will see another star bucks inside.
walk past star bucks and cross the road, you will reach a seven eleven. you will see a 24hrs car park. walk in at the left side of car park. you will pass a turkish restaurant, you will see a DOOR to office building. THIS IS it. you will call La Siora by phone. they will gave you a office number, and you will go up to register.

They ask for membership fee and give you a red card with a 4 digit membership number.

You have to pay 4000 yen to use their studio each time above the cost you will see on their site.

Enjoy. You will love it. Feb6 they are closed, and their team leader seem to be Rie Asagiri, but i also saw a bigger boss, of unknown name, a senior lady. Rie Asagiri also work a dom before, saw her photo in EVE nos 23 La Siora advertisement.

For first timer, La Siora have old copy of EVE, ask for some free copies. If you want to buy new copy of EVE, you have to go to west exit of JR shinjuku, walk across 2 traffic light, a 24 hrs video/magazine shop on the right.

DonCJ
20-02-2008, 12:16 PM
The Chateau Jade host server in USA is down for a few days only, not to worry.

Meanwhile, since January 1 Mistress Wednesday and Mistress Doll have returned full time to Chateau Jade, and we are also joined by slave jasmine.

Mistress Doll is the evil twin sister of slave tukta; in other words, she is a switch, adept at both Domination and submission.

slave jasmine by contrast is purely a submissive.

You can contact any of us at [email protected]

Mistress Tahn
Mistress Oh
Mistress April
Mistress Wednesday
Mistress Doll and slave tukta
slave jasmine

DonCJ
21-02-2008, 02:20 AM
Chateau Jade (Bangkok) websites are now back online after a 48 hour outtage caused by hardware malfunction at host in USA.

Chateau Jade (http://www.chateaujade.com)

Schrodinger
10-03-2008, 01:16 PM
Made a trip to Tokyo recently after a hiatus of 3 or 4 years - and of course I could not miss out re-visiting La Siora.

The unit they are using as the office has changed - it's now stark white and purely an office, unlike before where they used to store equipment and costumes. I kinda prefer the previous one - it has more of the BDSM feel.

Anyway, the important thing is that the units they use as playrooms haven't changed. Not sure if they still have different playrooms as I happened to use the same one for both my sessions. I was pleasantly surprised that they still had my records on file - useful since I had lost my membership card. 10-minute Pre-session interviews with both Mistresses were conducted, since it was my first time with either of them.

SESSION 1 - MISTRESS CREA

Mistress Crea has intense and mesmerizing eyes - the way she looked into my eyes with that wicked glint just completely melted me. I had opted for the OL costume and she looked just perfect in her white work blouse and hugging skirt, complete with nude pantyhose and bright red stiletto heels. She played the flirty but dominant office colleague/boss to a tee - she was caressing my cheeks with her fingers right from the pre-session interview...

I shall not go too much into the details of the session, save to say she was skilled at what she did - facesitting (really liked the positions she used), anal play, whipping and of course plenty of worshipping her lovely legs and beautiful feet. I just love how she will always give that piercing looks into your eyes while dominating you. And post-session she gave me really tight hugs like a gf would. I'm so hooked!

Name: Mistress Crea
Looks: 8.5/10 (looks early to mid 20s, pretty face with beautiful eyes)
Body: 8.5/10 (slim and nice legs/feet and tanned complexion)
Dressing: 9/10 (exactly what I requested)
Skills: 8.5/10 (facesitting, whipping, foot/leg worship, anal play)
Attitude: 9/10 (very warm, engaging and love those post session hugs!)
RTS: Definitely yes!

SESSION 2 - MISTRESS AKIHO

I had opted for a more 'traditional' and longer session with Mistress Akiho, after having had so much fun in the previous session. Mistress Akiho has a pleasant face exuding confidence - which in itself is a turn-on for me. We had a nice pre-session discussion where she delved into how I started off in BDSM, prioritised fantasies and even how Japanese dommes compared to western ones.

As mentioned, I went for a more traditional session with Akiho, with her in a little red leather dress, black stockings and black patent stilettos. The sight of her was enough to bring me to my knees.... Akiho's confidence is well-deserved as she demonstrated her skills in forced foot worship with me in collar & leash, rope bondage around my little general, whipping, great facesitting and some rather intense anal and strap-on play. She would always make sure I could see the evil smile on her face and her wicked laughter at my compromising positions was brilliant.

Post-session, we had a really nice long chat, but Akiho maintained a professional distance - friendly but not as warm and GFE as Crea. I would definitely still see her again though!

Name: Mistress Akiho
Looks: 8/10 (looks late 20s)
Body: 8/10 (slim and nice legs and fair complexion)
Dressing: 9/10 (exactly what I requested)
Skills: 9/10 (facesitting, CBT, collar/leash, spreader bars, cuffs, whipping, foot/leg worship, anal & strap-on play)
Attitude: 8/10 (very friendly and professional)
RTS: Definitely yes!


As a closing note, I think Mistresses Benio and Fujiko are the most beautiful, with Crea being more SYT-type pretty. Kaoruko and Akiho are also attractive, with Emi looking the meanest (perhaps it's all those tattoos and her 1.80m height!).

submarine
12-03-2008, 11:48 PM
Hi Bro Schrodinger,

Nice to hear you enjoyed yourself. I will also be going to Tokyo within the next 3 months or so. I have not been to La Siora but am certainly looking forward to it now with great expectations.

I was in HK recently and nearly wanted to try Mistress Irene in Jordan's National Court but refrained myself. It wouldnt be that way in Tokyo though :)

Not sure whether how much more it would cost if I get one of La Siora's mistress to come up to my hotel. I would probably be there for about 3 nights and plan to get about 3-4 sessions up and running...

Cheerios!~

Schrodinger
13-03-2008, 12:09 AM
...Not sure whether how much more it would cost if I get one of La Siora's mistress to come up to my hotel. I would probably be there for about 3 nights and plan to get about 3-4 sessions up and running...

Bro, I believe La Siora will not send Mistresses to your hotel unless you are an existing member. Besides, Tokyo hotel rooms are general small and confined (unless you have a sizeable budget and staying at the really pricey upmarket ones) and their studios are probably more comfortable. They are pretty well furnished and equipped. Perhaps you can try your first session there, then decide if you really want to do subsequent sessions in your room.

The German
17-03-2008, 02:27 AM
Hallo together,
i read this thread and i am wondering why two people make so big problems here.

It is so easy.

Udgduo dont like the type of the thaigirls, he likes more the
type of the japanese girls. Ok, can be!
So he searches bad things about the ladys in Thailand, spezial Chateau Jade. Thats not Ok!!

DonCJ as a former of this Studio and the scene in Thailand dont like this.
I understand this, because it is his job since years and he build a good reputation in this long time and the girls in this studio had to earn money.
Udgduo s postes are not objective. So they costs the reputation of DonJD and also the nice Mistresses and Switches who are working in Chateau Jade, Bangkok, Thailand.


I am out of Germany. Here, and in Europe generaly, we have a big BDSM-scene since long years.
I like this and knows many studios and Dominas and Subs here and in the countrys nearby since more than 25 years.
But i was in Thailand the first time.

Now only a short message because Chateau Jade:
I was in Thailand and in the Studio Chateau Jade in January and February 2008 for a few of the long 30 hours sessions, with Mistress OH and Than and Jasmin.
In the time there i also met Mistress April and the Administrator Yhpa.

Before my vacation i made a recherche in the internet because the SM-Scene in Thailand.

All what DonCJ wrote about this is true and i mean the same.

As the most of the European mens, so i know, i like the Thai-ladys very much.
They are looking not so strong, i cant explain it nearer, than other asian
girls, as japan or chinese. But its my meaning.
And so i can said that the Mistresses/Ladys/Girls in Chateau Jade all
looking very beautiful, My favourit was Mistress OH.

But i must say that in this part of service (Black or White Studio) the looking is not the importand thing! The best dominas are older, they had many ideas and expieriences.
A jounger Sub is ok, but must also not be.

Mistress OH was not only my favourit because here realy nice looking, also spezial here work as a mistress. She knows here job very well. I had love every of the many position she put me in strictly bondage. And not only this.
At every time, She had nice ideas to make many subtile pains, not only binding and whipping. (this is stupid) I love here.

So we had a nice time in the sessions, also with the Mistress Than.
She had also very bad ideas and i feel my nippels very long time ......smile. But in the night she takes care of them, and give me medicine.
I dont forget here smile.

We all together found nice positions and doings for our Sub Jasmine.
She dont like, but must do. We had much fun with here.
In My Next visit to Thailand, i will take planes from germany for here.

The equipment in the Studio is very extensive. Because this and the large rooms there are many possibilitys for playing.

The house and the rooms had a realy nice stile, but needs renovation.
Hope the owner give his assent soon. Than it will be a SM-Palast.


Also the other people, i met in the studio, make my time there to a wonderful time. I heared and learned so much about the living in Thailand. It was like they are my family. Thank you once more!!!!

In the time between the sessions, by the nice meals and on different transfers
to-from the airport and pattaya in had many time to speak with all of them.

My result is that i like them and spezial the Studio, theire good work there,
and also Thailand and the way of living there.

I will come back also to Chateau Jade and i hope a get more time with
Mistresse Oh.

The German you know


Ps. i had no Problems with the language there, because many speaking english very well and at every time there was someone for translation.

I hope you in the forum can understand my bad english writing.
Sorry if not.

dell_lee_2003
18-03-2008, 01:22 AM
Anyone know in Singapore where should I find Girl who are love to smell their feet?

Galiator
18-03-2008, 10:57 PM
Thai Domina is coming to Singapore between 25th to 30th March. Maybe you can look for them in Singapore. I seen from their web site, Mistress Nurie and Bella visiting Singapore

totolim
19-03-2008, 08:01 AM
i read on La Siora website that they provide Golden Shower as well
does it mean the mistress will strip ?

i know there is no sexual services offered at La Siora. but do the ladies strip at all during the session ? or they do everything in their garments, including face sitting ?

McWoof0
28-03-2008, 05:07 PM
Thai Domina is coming to Singapore between 25th to 30th March. Maybe you can look for them in Singapore. I seen from their web site, Mistress Nurie and Bella visiting Singapore


Hi bros,

Anyone of you know the number for the 2 mistresses in spore? i wan to book an appt but they didnt reply my email as yet.

Thanks !!

Joe73
28-03-2008, 05:37 PM
Hi bros,

Anyone of you know the number for the 2 mistresses in spore? i wan to book an appt but they didnt reply my email as yet.

Thanks !!

I have the number, but apparently they are fully booked...as they have mailed back to me saying that they cannot accomodate me in their schedule,
anyway they do not seem like to be to freindly people as they do not pick up calls

KatoeyLover69
28-03-2008, 07:08 PM
I have the number, but apparently they are fully booked...as they have mailed back to me saying that they cannot accomodate me in their schedule,
anyway they do not seem like to be to freindly people as they do not pick up calls

You can't blame them for not picking up calls as they are FULLY BOOKED and might be very busy providing S & M services to their subs to pick up your calls ....... anyway, what good will it do to you if they picked up your calls as they can't cater to you anyway ...... put yourself in the position of their subs and imagine that you were one of them - would you like to be interuppted while the Mistress are busy whipping you or fingering your ass with a big dildo ???? :mad:

Joe73
28-03-2008, 09:30 PM
You can't blame them for not picking up calls as they are FULLY BOOKED and might be very busy providing S & M services to their subs to pick up your calls ....... anyway, what good will it do to you if they picked up your calls as they can't cater to you anyway ...... put yourself in the position of their subs and imagine that you were one of them - would you like to be interuppted while the Mistress are busy whipping you or fingering your ass with a big dildo ???? :mad:

Haha fully agree :)

But the thing is that i called them outside of their session timings....and also a day before....they only mailed on the day they arrived that they are fully booked....the least they could do is just pick up call and just say they are fully book.......Mistress Christy does this without any fuss will even talk cock with you for a while

McWoof0
29-03-2008, 12:54 PM
Haha fully agree :)

But the thing is that i called them outside of their session timings....and also a day before....they only mailed on the day they arrived that they are fully booked....the least they could do is just pick up call and just say they are fully book.......Mistress Christy does this without any fuss will even talk cock with you for a while


Ya mistress christy and her sis aria also ans calls.. anyway bro.. can u pm me their number? i try to call to try my luck and see if i can any last min slots..

thanks!

Galiator
29-03-2008, 11:59 PM
Hi bros,

Anyone of you know the number for the 2 mistresses in spore? i wan to book an appt but they didnt reply my email as yet.

Thanks !!

Brother, Mistress Nurie mobile in Bangkok - 0892129973

Note : I had not contact her for more than a month after return from Bangkok. They should be in Singapore today...good luck

subway73
30-03-2008, 01:46 PM
thank you for the number bros,

Miss Nurie response is overwhelming. Great that there are so many sg ppl into bdsm, then more provider of this service

_listless
30-03-2008, 02:37 PM
so how got any FR of the session? me try to book but cannot get a slot, they are still here today right? maybe will try my luck later.

ydgduo
01-04-2008, 10:20 AM
i read on La Siora website that they provide Golden Shower as well
does it mean the mistress will strip ?

i know there is no sexual services offered at La Siora. but do the ladies strip at all during the session ? or they do everything in their garments, including face sitting ?

every mistress is different

no idea on golden shower, hard to pee with panties on.

but they dun do naked in session, no way in first few sessions, i guess if you are a regular, things might be different. again depend on mistress.

For sure they do facesitting with panties on. No way unless you are regular that you can get raw. How to be regular if not living near Tokyo?

99% of all mistress dun do naked session. Except fetish fortress in nyc. You have to pay extra.

but on first session in La Siora, only expect regular service. But they are good and skillful.

I like Mao, Emi and Ayatsuki best. Tall and nice face.

It cost money to use their studio, but i think it cost more if they have to go to hotel, since who is going to pay for the taxi? I am not sure, but it sound like the customer have to pay. Just a guess.

ydgduo
01-04-2008, 10:37 AM
Schrodinger, sound like you have a lot of fun in Tokyo.

I wish i can go back there one day, i can only dream. Hopefully, my boss send me there again.

It cost too much just to go there for sexual gratification.

DonCJ
08-04-2008, 03:31 AM
It is simply not true that "99% of all Mistresses" don't do "naked sessions. First of all, you can't go by what they are willing to say on a website.

Also it depends on what you mean by a "naked session".

A Domme is not a prostitute, hopefully we can have a general agreement on that point.

But in my experience, many Dommes, perhaps most, will facesit with panties off (how else to get proper body worship?) and will donate GS golden nectar, NS in German, in short, piss. Urine play is one of the most universal elements. A Mistress who refuses to cater to urloganiacs is no Mistress.

ydgduo
11-04-2008, 05:20 AM
It is simply not true that "99% of all Mistresses" don't do "naked sessions. First of all, you can't go by what they are willing to say on a website.

Also it depends on what you mean by a "naked session".

A Domme is not a prostitute, hopefully we can have a general agreement on that point.

But in my experience, many Dommes, perhaps most, will facesit with panties off (how else to get proper body worship?) and will donate GS golden nectar, NS in German, in short, piss. Urine play is one of the most universal elements. A Mistress who refuses to cater to urloganiacs is no Mistress.



proper bodyworship is hard to find.

most do not allow it - i read their website, email them - they said they dun do it. you are from europe, you should know very well.

but if you are regular of particular mistress, anything is possible.

there is blindfold urine.

i dun like to try these.

DonCJ
13-04-2008, 02:58 PM
I already told you, you cannot go by what Mistresses (or their pretentious webmasters) say on websites. What they say on a site is one thing and what they do in a session is often something else.

The same goes for emails.

Dommes gets lots of emails and mostly people never show up.

The subs who do show up are the ones they take seriously.

In the US and Europe and from what you say Japan, Dommes apparently often feel the need to claim they never do this and they never do that.

What crap.

Well, just to be on the record, the Mistresses of Chateau Jade ALL do facesitting with no panties and ALL do NS/GS in the mouth of their slaves and two of them also do scat.

What they do not do is offer straight sex. They do not suck cock and they do not get fucked, although they will be happy to dildo fuck or fist fuck a sub.

And by the way I am not from Europe.

subway73
13-04-2008, 03:22 PM
Guys,

i tried Christie and Aria while the in singapore, no the raw deal but near enuff for me. Nurie was fully booked so i missed her. Last time i practice BDSM 6-12 months ago. Really missed it.

Cant leave town due to family commitment and my lifestyle is a secret. i wish Spore is more active in this area.

Bros please let me know early if there are any visiting domes. I tried vicesister and almost hooked up with Misstress V then i realise that she was a she (master) with boopies and hard meat rod, so i gave a miss.

Sigh!!!!

Joe73
18-04-2008, 12:09 AM
Guys,

i tried Christie and Aria while the in singapore, no the raw deal but near enuff for me. Nurie was fully booked so i missed her. Last time i practice BDSM 6-12 months ago. Really missed it.

Cant leave town due to family commitment and my lifestyle is a secret. i wish Spore is more active in this area.

Bros please let me know early if there are any visiting domes. I tried vicesister and almost hooked up with Misstress V then i realise that she was a she (master) with boopies and hard meat rod, so i gave a miss.

Sigh!!!!

Yes funny how mistress Nurie was fully booked but not yet one single Field report....anyway tomorrow maybe i may visit May.....no choice given the lack of dominatrix here in Singapore....anyone know where Star when?

Fmcane
18-04-2008, 04:47 PM
Yes, finally pluck up my courage to travel alone to Tokyo just to visit La Siora.
Done some web research before hand on Shinjuku map and google earth. Together with important pointers from Bro Schrodinger (thks again bro), finding La Siora was not as difficult as I have thought. It actually turns out to be pretty easy.

Done 2 sessions during my trip. Just to share with all..


1st session - Mistress Crea
She has a sweet & sexy look. There is a 1.5 inch scar near to her left eye brown, but it doesn't affect her looks. Curvy cute little butt with very nice feet (under dim lightings).

During our interview, I highlighted that I'm curious and wanted to try some golden shower (me first timer). Towards the end of session, she lead me to the shower room, made me lie down inside the bath tub, ordered me to open my mouth wide and start the shower (nasty & not to my liking).

After the pee job, she ordered me to kiss her ass. Seek her permission to AR her and was surprise that she actually allow it (offcos before making me beg for it first).

End the session jerking myself off while eating my 1st jap babe ass.


Looks - 8 (mid to late 20s?)
Skill (CP only) - 7.5 (warning: she can slap damp hard)
Damage (in S$) - 40.8 (1 time membership) + 54.4 (studio) + 13.6 (regular Mistress) + 408 (100mins session) = 516.8 (total)
RTSM - Maybe, depending on budget.


2nd session - Mistress Benio
Cheerful and pretty enough. Always smiling but a bit skinny though.

She seems to like her trade, enjoying herself throughout our session. Can role play pretty well too.

Halfway through the session, i cracked her new cane, which was specially purchased & just shipped in from U.S 2 weeks ago. Offer to compensate her but she rejected politely. Point added for that.

End my session with face sitting & analingus (she too did not object & same as Mistress Crea, made me beg for it first). Again finish off DIY while tasting my 2nd jap babe ass.

Lastly, I saw her disinfecting her tools while coming out from my bath. Another point added for that.


Looks - 7.5 (maybe late 20s?)
Skill (CP only) - 9.5 (the best I had so far. Good accuracy & recommended for hardcore players)
Damage (in S$) - 54.4 (studio) + 27.2 (senior Mistress fee) + 408 (100mins session) = 489.6 (total)
RTSM - A definite YES if got excess budget. A MUST if I strike 4-D on my new 4 digit membership number :D.

totolim
19-04-2008, 12:19 AM
Hi Bro FMCane

good FR. i was also thinking of making a trip just to visit La Siora. will probably do that in June

Question : she expected you to drink her golden shower ??? gee. thought they will pee over your body only.

so i guess they strip off their undies when they pee. No chance for you to do cunninglingus when u were eating the Jap asses ?

I find $500 is reasonable, for a different type of experience.

Cheers

ydgduo
19-04-2008, 08:07 AM
make me jealous , i have no s&m since last year trip to La Siora.

itchy already.

other than La Siora, i wonder there are other jap s&m house we can visit. Wonder.

submarine
20-04-2008, 02:57 AM
Its good that many are tempted to go to Japan just for La Siora. I do agree that 500 for a different experience is worth the try. I guess a 2 night stay would be sufficient. By the way, FMCane, do you get to choose the outfit of the mistress? Or its fixed, depending on the time and day?

I'm already making plans to visit them in Jul/Aug when it's non-peak season. Besides La Siora and a few FL mistresses who can speak English, i think many other clubs only accept Japanese. If I have a choice, CLUB PERVS ’r‘ÜSMƒNƒ‰ƒu (http://www.club-pervs.jp) would be my no 1 destination.

Fmcane
20-04-2008, 03:32 AM
Hi Bro FMCane

Question : she expected you to drink her golden shower ??? gee. thought they will pee over your body only.

so i guess they strip off their undies when they pee. No chance for you to do cunninglingus when u were eating the Jap asses ?

I find $500 is reasonable, for a different type of experience.

Cheers

1) Well, u can always say before hand to pee on body only. They will not force u.
2) Offcos panties remove:p. How to pee with panties on:confused:
3) I did not ask for cunninglingus as i feel that it's out of the SM topics.
Cunninglingus is sexual service rite? Must respect their trade lah :D...

Fmcane
20-04-2008, 03:39 AM
Its good that many are tempted to go to Japan just for La Siora. I do agree that 500 for a different experience is worth the try. I guess a 2 night stay would be sufficient. By the way, FMCane, do you get to choose the outfit of the mistress? Or its fixed, depending on the time and day?


Oh yes, u can choose the outfit. In fact, when u call to make the booking, the receptionist will ask u for any dressing preferences. Just don't tell them naked:D

submarine
20-04-2008, 01:12 PM
Oh yes, u can choose the outfit. In fact, when u call to make the booking, the receptionist will ask u for any dressing preferences. Just don't tell them naked:D

and my demented mind works overtime...im thinking...

http://pics4.erosboutique.com/vinyl-motorcyclemistress.jpg
http://pics9.erosboutique.com/vinyl-openbustcorset.jpg
http://pics9.erosboutique.com/leather-lingerie-xxx4-641Teddy.jpg
*pics courtesy of Eros Boutique*

that is..if the La Siora girls have something similar..
although i think as a slave, one shouldnt mind what the mistress is wearing (cos its up to her), but goodness, anyone who wears the above would be my goddess anytime anyday

Fmcane
20-04-2008, 09:22 PM
and my demented mind works overtime...im thinking...

http://pics4.erosboutique.com/vinyl-motorcyclemistress.jpg
http://pics9.erosboutique.com/vinyl-openbustcorset.jpg
http://pics9.erosboutique.com/leather-lingerie-xxx4-641Teddy.jpg
*pics courtesy of Eros Boutique*

that is..if the La Siora girls have something similar..
although i think as a slave, one shouldnt mind what the mistress is wearing (cos its up to her), but goodness, anyone who wears the above would be my goddess anytime anyday


Hi bro submarine,

I send them some pics before hand on what's my needs. U can always do the same, or bring along the hard copys pics to show them during the interview.
I think the Mistresses will not mind to put on if they have any similar type. That say, i'm not sure will the Mistress wear any fitting that will bare their breast ..

Good luck :p

ydgduo
23-04-2008, 05:06 AM
wow i did not know those who write on this forum is so rich.
going to japan just to visit la siora is mind blogging.

submarine
23-04-2008, 11:49 PM
Maybe u can call it desperation :P

A legal BDSM club would make the owner a very rich man here in SG. I'm not going to go to Tokyo 4-5 times a year just for the experience, but in a 1 week stay, might easily rack up 3-4 visits to make the most of the trip.

My gf dosen't mind me visiting mistresses, as long as no sex is involved :)

ydgduo
24-04-2008, 05:29 PM
Maybe u can call it desperation :P

A legal BDSM club would make the owner a very rich man here in SG. I'm not going to go to Tokyo 4-5 times a year just for the experience, but in a 1 week stay, might easily rack up 3-4 visits to make the most of the trip.

My gf dosen't mind me visiting mistresses, as long as no sex is involved :)

god a bdsm club in singapore, you cannot even be naked in your own apartment, if the window is open, people will complain to police about you.
also no porn magazine allow, so bdsm club is a bit difficult.

your gf does not mind? she know about your submissive tendency. she is pretty open minded.

wait, let me guess, she found out about looking at your computer or magazine or dvd collection.

Fmcane
26-04-2008, 02:43 PM
wow i did not know those who write on this forum is so rich.
going to japan just to visit la siora is mind blogging.

Bro ydgduo, me no rich. I'm actually subsidize 2/3 of the total cost ....
ERS u know:D