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Old 13-03-2017, 01:15 AM
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State benefits only apply when you have the position. It is not your personal benefit to take away when you leave the job. But salaries are personal to keep for life usage regardless you leave the job.

To use USA State benefits for high office as consolation for Singapore's Government Highest Pay in the world does not make sense at all.

Book deals depends on demand and supply. Not all USA Presidents got fantastic book deals by default. But key difference is book deals still need to be won and earn by USA Presidents. Singapore Ministers rather get highest salaries then do book deals for the equivalent money.
Wrong!!!

All ex US presidents n immediate family got secret service detail even after leaving office

And US presidents influence is world wide.
Given the new economy, DEFINITELY there's a demand to hear their inside story.

Unlike in the past where book deals aren't common or in 8 figures, in this new world, DEFINITELY all ex us presidents will rake millions from all kinds of deals even if not book deals. Sit on board, already can make millions liao. Some big China company can pay Clinton or barry millions just to attend their product launch. That's part n parcel of being a well known figure thanks to being ex us president.

In this new economy, even if you're not paid millions in salary, if you got exposure to millions on social media, it's good enough for u to make alot of money. What more if your name is known to billions cos u were ex us president

Not only us presidents but most western leaders or famous ones set for life EXCEPT for those hermit kind who after being president or leaders decide to have zero contact n don't want to make any money.
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Re: The relentless rising cost of living in Singapore

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Re: The relentless rising cost of living in Singapore

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/gove...ty-bonding-lim



Higher budget estimates for People's Association is to help community bonding: Lim Swee Say






The 2015 budget estimates allocated to The People's Association (PA) reflect a higher level of commitment by the government towards promoting social cohesion and racial harmony, Lim Swee Say, Singapore's Minister for Culture, Community and Youth, said on Monday.

In a written reply to queries over the 51.3 per cent jump in the PA's expenditure estimates to more than S$1 billion for FY2015, Mr Lim said the PA "promotes community bonding in Singapore".

Of the S$339.6 million or 51.3 per cent increase in the estimated Financial Year (FY) 2015 expenditure of the PA, S$239.3 million (70.5 per cent) is for the development of facilities for residents' use.

These include the building of the Tampines Town Hub, construction of nine new community centres (CCs) and two Water-Venture outlets as well as the upgrading of 28 existing CCs under its 15-year upgrading cycle.



Mr Lim added that the increase of S$100.3 million, or 29.5 per cent, in operating expenditure will go into implementing the Pioneer Generation Ambassador programme.
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Re: The relentless rising cost of living in Singapore

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High time to audit the books of the People’s Association



By Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss

The People’s Association (“PA”) is an organ heavily funded by taxpayers’ money.

For FY 2012 and FY 2013, it received S$399 million and S$540 million in Government grants respectively. [1]

Earlier this year, the Government increased by 51.3 percent the estimated expenditure of the PA, and allocated the PA over S$1 billion from the public coffers to fund its activities for FY 2015. [2]

On Wednesday (15 July 2015), the Auditor-General’s Office (“AGO”) published its Report for the Financial Year 2014/15 which revealed troubling lapses in PA governance, suggesting that taxpayers’ money granted to PA is not being wisely and accountably spent.

The AGO revealed that 35 Community Club/Centre Management Committees (“CCMCs”) had awarded S$17.78 million worth of tenancy contracts without proper approval.

More surprisingly, it was revealed that Admiralty CCC’s Chairman had approved claims to himself amounting to S$114,767 via seven payments. Conflicts of interest were also discovered in the approving of two contracts totalling $32,000.

By any standards, S$114,767 is a significant amount of claims to request reimbursement for.

This is especially so in the context of a volunteer organization like a CCC.

MPs for Sembawang GRC Mr Khaw Boon Wan and Mr Vikram Nair were quick to highlight that there was “no evidence of dishonesty”.

That is beside the point, and in any case a very low threshold to cross.

The specific questions Minister Khaw and Mr Nair should answer, in relation to Admiralty CCC, are:

1. In light of the large amounts of claims made to the former CCC Chairman, will there be a full audit of all payments made by the CCC to the said CCC Chairman?

2. What was the exact nature of the “claims” made? Why was there a need to incur such large “claims” in relation to voluntary work on behalf of the CCC?

3. What was the total amount of “claims” made by the CCC to the CCC Chairman, and what were these “claims” for?

A much more significant point of concern is this: the AGO audits are conducted on a test check basis, they do not reveal all irregularities and weaknesses (see page 2 of the AGO Report [3]). In other words, the full extent of the lapses in PA finances and processes highlighted by the AGO Report remains to be ascertained.

Huge amounts of public funds are granted to PA every year. This year, the PA was allocated an unprecedented amount for its expenditure. The worrying lapses revealed by the AGO call for decisive action – the immediate appointment of independent auditors to conduct a full and thorough account of all public funds disbursed by PA. The public has to be assured that the lapses are not endemic. The PA has to be held accountable for how it has deployed our money.

The PA was historically created to help the ruling PAP control the grassroots. [4] It is an organ of the ruling party. The PA’s Chairman is the Prime Minister. It is not politically neutral. Only PAP MPs can be appointed as PA Grassroots Advisers, opposition MPs cannot.

It is also high time to ask if the PA, a politically compromised, heavy user of public funds, should even continue to exist at all. A taxpayer-funded mass movement arm set up to benefit the ruling party has no place in a fair, just and democratic Singapore.

[1] The People’s Association 2013/2014 Annual report
[2] http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/gove...ty-bonding-lim

[3] http://www.ago.gov.sg/docs/default-s...52ec114080.pdf
[4] http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infoped...83012.html#Fn5
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Re: The relentless rising cost of living in Singapore

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Half billion taxpayer dollars go to People’s Association each year


Published 9 February 2014 politics and government 20 Comments


I am sure there are denialists just as there are creationists zombie-ing among us. But I dare say for most Singaporeans, it is as clear as day that the People’s Association is and has always been, an affiliate of the People’s Action Party, in effect if not in name.

The currently trending story about former PAP stalwart and independent presidential candidate Tan Cheng Bock having his invitation to a tea party withdrawn throws a spotlight once again on (a) the issue of the politicisation of the People’s Association, and (b) the question of what purpose it serves — even for the PAP.....................
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Old 18-03-2017, 02:16 AM
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Wrong!!!

All ex US presidents n immediate family got secret service detail even after leaving office

And US presidents influence is world wide.
Given the new economy, DEFINITELY there's a demand to hear their inside story.

Unlike in the past where book deals aren't common or in 8 figures, in this new world, DEFINITELY all ex us presidents will rake millions from all kinds of deals even if not book deals. Sit on board, already can make millions liao. Some big China company can pay Clinton or barry millions just to attend their product launch. That's part n parcel of being a well known figure thanks to being ex us president.

In this new economy, even if you're not paid millions in salary, if you got exposure to millions on social media, it's good enough for u to make alot of money. What more if your name is known to billions cos u were ex us president

Not only us presidents but most western leaders or famous ones set for life EXCEPT for those hermit kind who after being president or leaders decide to have zero contact n don't want to make any money.
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‘Reasonable pay will help to maintain a bit of dignity’

Member of Parliament Lim Wee Kiak of the Nee Soon group representation constituency (GRC) defended ministerial salaries by saying a reasonable payout helped maintain "dignity" for politicians.

He was quickly slammed by netizens, many of whom pointed out in various posts on the Web that "dignity" should not be justified by salary alone.

The multi-million dollar pay of ministers was a hot-button issue in Singapore's recent General Election, which saw the ruling People's Action Party win 81 out of 87 seats but at a significantly lower share of the total votes.

Following the results, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong announced the formation of a committee to review the "basis and level of political salaries". Any pay changes would take effect from 21 May this year.

"If the annual salary of the Minister of Information, Communication and Arts is only $500,000, it may pose some problems when he discuss policies with media CEOs who earn millions of dollars because they need not listen to the minister's ideas and proposals. Hence, a reasonable payout will help to maintain a bit of dignity," Dr Lim told LianHe ZaoBao in Chinese.

In reaction, Francis Oen postedon Facebook: "Hi Wee Kiat.. Suggest you clarify your statement. Does it mean that only $ talks?! ... And if someone earns less, does it mean he cannot have dignity?"

Winnie Lim tweeted: "So according to Dr Lim Wee Kiak's theory, our ministers will ignore Obama because he earns less than all of them."

On his Facebook page, Dr Lim said that his quote was taken out of context.
"Minister's pay issue is a sensitive one. There must be a balance. After all, capable individuals who are willing to come forward to serve should not so because of pay and perks," he replied to a user's question about his quote.

He added, "On the other hand, they do have families and dependents and need to consider for retirement, etc."
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On his Facebook page, Dr Lim said that his quote was taken out of context.
"Minister's pay issue is a sensitive one. There must be a balance. After all, capable individuals who are willing to come forward to serve should not so because of pay and perks," he replied to a user's question about his quote.

He added, "On the other hand, they do have families and dependents and need to consider for retirement, etc."

The issue on hand is that 60% of Singaporeans will one day be displaced one day. Sadly, a lot of Singaporeans do not recognize this fact at all.

Case in point. Assuming there are 50,000 Uber/Grabcar drivers; when self drive less cars come into Singapore, these people will lose their jobs! BMW has announced that they will achieve Level 5 for driveless cars in 2021; 4 years time. It is NOT 50,000 people who have lost jobs, but 50,000 families will be affected. Add in Taxi drivers and also people who deliver food or other things; we are looking at job losses which will affect heck of a lot of families.

That is just driveless cars. Wealth Management is being replaced by AI advisors and even telephone operators are going to be replaced by Chatbots.

I really fear that we are totally unprepared for things to come.

Here is food for thought.

We praise Japan for high level of government looking after its people. But even for Japan, the government cannot continue to look after 6000 citizens who were hit by Fukushima nuclear fall out after 6 years. Though at least they tried to take care of those affected for 6 years before pulling the aid plug on the residents of Fukushima.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...vivors-9864376

Basically, Japan cannot even look after its own citizens after 6 years and are forcing the residents to move back so that they can stop bleeding financially. That bill for 6,000 people for 6 years cost the Japanese government a lot of money.

Now, let me ask the question, when we have 50,000 families being affected by technology changes such as driveless cars then what is going to happen?

So when someone says "they have families and dependents and need to consider retirement", then ask if others don't have families and dependents and also do not need to consider retirement?
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The issue on hand is that 60% of Singaporeans will one day be displaced one day. Sadly, a lot of Singaporeans do not recognize this fact at all.

Case in point. Assuming there are 50,000 Uber/Grabcar drivers; when self drive less cars come into Singapore, these people will lose their jobs! BMW has announced that they will achieve Level 5 for driveless cars in 2021; 4 years time. It is NOT 50,000 people who have lost jobs, but 50,000 families will be affected. Add in Taxi drivers and also people who deliver food or other things; we are looking at job losses which will affect heck of a lot of families.

That is just driveless cars. Wealth Management is being replaced by AI advisors and even telephone operators are going to be replaced by Chatbots.

I really fear that we are totally unprepared for things to come.

Here is food for thought.

We praise Japan for high level of government looking after its people. But even for Japan, the government cannot continue to look after 6000 citizens who were hit by Fukushima nuclear fall out after 6 years. Though at least they tried to take care of those affected for 6 years before pulling the aid plug on the residents of Fukushima.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...vivors-9864376

Basically, Japan cannot even look after its own citizens after 6 years and are forcing the residents to move back so that they can stop bleeding financially. That bill for 6,000 people for 6 years cost the Japanese government a lot of money.

Now, let me ask the question, when we have 50,000 families being affected by technology changes such as driveless cars then what is going to happen?

So when someone says "they have families and dependents and need to consider retirement", then ask if others don't have families and dependents and also do not need to consider retirement?
Very well said bro
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Case in point. Assuming there are 50,000 Uber/Grabcar drivers; when self drive less cars come into Singapore, these people will lose their jobs! BMW has announced that they will achieve Level 5 for driveless cars in 2021; 4 years time. It is NOT 50,000 people who have lost jobs, but 50,000 families will be affected. Add in Taxi drivers and also people who deliver food or other things; we are looking at job losses which will affect heck of a lot of families.

That is just driveless cars. Wealth Management is being replaced by AI advisors and even telephone operators are going to be replaced by Chatbots.

I really fear that we are totally unprepared for things to come.
not only SG, everywhere same ...

the innovation will create more wealth for less people and cause more social problems ... but people will still can cope with it ... in the long term
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The issue on hand is that 60% of Singaporeans will one day be displaced one day. Sadly, a lot of Singaporeans do not recognize this fact at all.

Case in point. Assuming there are 50,000 Uber/Grabcar drivers; when self drive less cars come into Singapore, these people will lose their jobs! BMW has announced that they will achieve Level 5 for driveless cars in 2021; 4 years time. It is NOT 50,000 people who have lost jobs, but 50,000 families will be affected. Add in Taxi drivers and also people who deliver food or other things; we are looking at job losses which will affect heck of a lot of families.

That is just driveless cars. Wealth Management is being replaced by AI advisors and even telephone operators are going to be replaced by Chatbots.

I really fear that we are totally unprepared for things to come.

Driverless cars
Driverless Trains
Driverless Taxis
Driverless Buses
Driverless service vehicles.
Drones doing deliveries
No more waiters & waitress jobs done by robots
Sex dolls
Robots in hospitals
Robots doing newscasters jobs

Endless .... remember the movie iRobot ? So many will be without a job . Is this what you want ?
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not only SG, everywhere same ...

the innovation will create more wealth for less people and cause more social problems ... but people will still can cope with it ... in the long term
How to cope with high unemployment and high rising cost ?
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How to cope with high unemployment and high rising cost ?
These were the conditions for revolutions, uprisings, rebellions and upheavals. Governments and dynasties fell the violent and bloody way. History kept repeating itself for 5000 years.

As long the gap between rich, powerful, connected vs poor, unemployed, weak, helpless become too wide, inequality reached the extreme points then society will start to destabilize. Protests will become riots. Riots will become revolutions, uprisings, rebellions and upheavals.

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Chen Show Mao 'uninvited' from community event






Opposition MP Chen Show Mao uploaded a photo of a note informing him that he had been 'uninvited' from a ghost month dinner on his Facebook page.

CONTROVERSY has broken afresh online after Members of Parliament (MPs) from the opposition ward of Aljunied were "disinvited" to at least one ghost month dinner events.

Workers' Party (WP) MP for Aljunied GRC Chen Show Mao explained on his Facebook page yesterday that he had been scheduled to attend such a dinner last week, but the organisers had called to let him know that they could not have him show up as originally hoped.

Grassroots leaders are often invited to such dinners, held as part of the Chinese Hungry Ghost Month celebrations.

In this case, organisers had – according to Mr Chen's post – been told by the Paya Lebar CCC (Citizens' Consultative Committee under the People's Association) that, as a condition for receiving CCC approval to use a planned venue in the HDB estate, they "may no longer" invite the Aljunied opposition MPs.



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Chen Show Mao disinvited to dinner

Posted on August 21, 2011 by gdy2shoez


From ‘Chen Show Mao ‘uninvited’ from communal event”, 21 Aug 2011, article by Benson Ang in tnp.sg and Chen Show Mao’s Facebook page.
CONTROVERSY has broken afresh online after Members of Parliament (MPs) from the opposition ward of Aljunied were “disinvited” to at least one ghost month dinner events.

Workers’ Party (WP) MP for Aljunied GRC Chen Show Mao explained on his Facebook page yesterday that he had been scheduled to attend such a dinner last week, but the organisers had called to let him know that they could not have him show up as originally hoped.

Grassroots leaders are often invited to such dinners, held as part of the Chinese Hungry Ghost Month celebrations.

In this case, organisers had – according to Mr Chen’s post – been told by the Paya Lebar CCC (Citizens’ Consultative Committee under the People’s Association) that, as a condition for receiving CCC approval to use a planned venue in the HDB estate, they “may no longer” invite the Aljunied opposition MPs.
(Chen Show Mao): …It pains me that they felt so embarrassed to pass me the news. Regrettably, this is not the first time it has happened since I was elected….Many residents talk to me about the events they are organizing in the neighborhood: some of them wish to invite me to join them, others don’t see the need to. That is all fine by me … there is really no call to force our residents into a quandary over whom they may invite as guests to their own events.

According to the PA website, under the PA Act (Yes there are actually legal frameworks governing PA’s activities):
4 (1) The Association shall consist of –
(a) the Prime Minister as Chairman;
(b) a Minister to be appointed by the Chairman as Deputy
Chairman;
(c) 8 members to be appointed by the Chairman; and
(d) one member to be appointed by the Chairman in consultation
with each of the organisations mentioned in the First Schedule.

Other than our PM as Chairman, the current board of management also includes fellow PAP ministers like Lim Swee Say as Deputy Chairman, MG Chan Chun Sing and Grace Fu. It’s obvious that the PA is really a Recreation Club spin-off of the PAP, and should really be called PAPPA instead.

If this ‘PAP who’s who’ line-up is not reason enough to see why Chen Show Mao of the WP was forced into a ‘No-Show’, a similar snub befell Chiam See Tong back in 1988. Chiam, then SDP leader, was not invited to the Potong Pasir National Day dinner, also organised by the Citizen’s Consultative Commitee of the constituency (I wasn’t invited to Potong Pasir dinner: Chiam, 17 Aug 1988, ST), which pretty much confirms that this PA party-pooper business is exclusive to Opposition MPs.

Is the reluctance of the PA to have Opposition MPs at such functions a form of preferential treatment, a wily tactic to prevent any sort of ‘recruitment’ of grassroot leaders into the Opposition camp, or for ‘security’ reasons?

DPM Wong Kan Seng was quick to denounce any political link between PA and the PAP in 2006, though any outstanding grassroots work under the PA is a surefire way to get noticed by its predominantly PAP board members. In a heated debate with LKY in 1983, Anson MP JBJ described being ‘treated like a leper’ by RC members, and cited, in contrast, the entourage of 25 HDB and PA associates accompanying a PAP MP on his walkabout. In the same article, LKY had this to say about the birth of the PA in 1960, of which he was the Chairman (naturally)

…Therefore we came out with this association (the PA) which enabled people not to identify with a political party but with the government of the day. There is a clear distinction.

In today’s PA, the ‘government of the day’ resides in its Board of Management, which explains the behaviour of its staff, even if they’re under no obligation to support the PAP in any way.

But dig deeper into the history of the PA and you’ll uncover a darker, deep-seated reason behind this aversion to the Opposition. In 1961, 17 PA members were dismissed for allegedly supporting former PAP members (who left to join Barisan Socialis) by distributing anti-government propaganda in CCs, resulting in a strike involving 200 PA members.

One of the PAP ‘defectors’ was none other than Dr Lim Hock Siew, later detained for almost 20 years under the ISA. So you can probably understand why PA members aren’t exactly touchy-feely with Opposition MPs, because you never know when inviting one to dinner would be misinterpreted as an act of aiding ‘subversion’.

Of course if today’s PA members, supposedly a non-political body (despite its PAP bosses) decide to hold demonstrations at CCs to kick out WP MPs from their GRCs, they would probably be let off with nothing more than a warning. On the other hand, if they bootlick PAP MPs by helping put up campaign posters or ferry people to rallies FOC during the general elections, that would be judged as actions of their own free will.

Therein lies the contradiction of a statutory board disclaiming any political links, and unless there is complete severance of PA from the PAP, or when MPs start wearing the same attire to NDP, this organisation will continue to fail in living up to its motto: Bringing People Together, because from what I understand about the word ‘People’, it means all Singaporeans, whichever political camp you belong to.

Postscript: Former PAP MP Cynthia Chua responded by criticising Chen Show Mao for ‘politicising’ the case.

According to the rules in using open spaces, those managed by the PA are leased for its grassroots organisations, but their activities must not be ‘political in nature’. This means MPs are not allowed to attend, but PAP losing candidates in opposition-held wards get to attend such events as government-appointed ‘grassroots advisers’ e.g Cynthia Chua.

Which means ousted PAP members, by retaining their ‘adviser’ status, get to mingle more with constituency residents while their very own MPs, the ones who can actually get things done, are banned. Surely, at the back of the minds of such ‘runner-up’ politicians would be getting re-elected, so how is having these ‘advisors’ grooming grassroots leaders at these events and making their presence felt as if to say ‘I’m still here in the running!’ NOT considered a political activity?

If PA is serious about its non-party-political affiliations, it should not have any PAP backing at all, and ban all past, present or future MPs from all its grassroots events.
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